...in which 3 buttholes discuss Return of the Jedi.
Foreign.
Speaker BHello there.
Speaker BMy name is Corey and I am a Star War.
Speaker AAnd my name is Corey and I am also a Star War.
Speaker CAnd my name is Jim and I am a Star War.
Speaker CAnd we are a Star War.
Speaker BMy name's Jeff.
Speaker AMy name.
Speaker AWhat are we doing today?
Speaker AEpisode 6, Return of the Jedi.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker CThis is not Revenge of the Jedi.
Speaker BThis is the one that I think I'm most looking forward to.
Speaker CI am excited.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AWe're gonna take our time.
Speaker ASo it was called Revenge for a long time up until like six months before it came out or something.
Speaker ABecause I know I have like an old Starlog magazine that's still like oh, that's right.
Speaker AIt's like, hey, this summer Revenge of the Jedi is coming.
Speaker BYeah, you can still find posters and stuff.
Speaker AZolo's gonna die.
Speaker AYeah, something like that.
Speaker BIf Harrison Ford had his wish, I
Speaker Cwas gonna say that was his PR reps putting that out there on Starlog.
Speaker CTalking off record.
Speaker BSo you will start with round one, Facts and figures.
Speaker AYes, facts and figures.
Speaker ADo it.
Speaker AStar Wars Episode 6 Return of the Jedi released on May 25, 1983.
Speaker ADirected by Richard Marquall.
Speaker ADid he do everything else?
Speaker AI don't know if you ever.
Speaker AAll these Star wars directors are like didn't do anything else ever again.
Speaker AThey're just stand ins for Lucas.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ALucas, like just go do this thing that I want you to do.
Speaker ABut Lucas wrote it.
Speaker A32.5 million dollar budget, 482 million dollar box office.
Speaker AIt was the highest grossing movie of 1983.
Speaker AIt was five.
Speaker AIt was nominated for five Oscars and only one.
Speaker BOne.
Speaker CAnd what did it win?
Speaker ADo you want to guess?
Speaker CBest snack?
Speaker ABest sound, Visual effects.
Speaker AIt was nominated for sound and sound effects and score and art direction but lost all of those.
Speaker AI didn't look up who it was.
Speaker CThe Matrix.
Speaker AYeah, it was probably the Matrix or
Speaker CLord of the Rings.
Speaker CLord of the Rings.
Speaker BI think we say that every time
Speaker Awe do because it's.
Speaker AThat's normally true.
Speaker ASo this came out on your sixth birthday?
Speaker CThat is correct.
Speaker CThis was more than likely.
Speaker CMy father took me to see it on my birthday because this is the only one I remember seeing in the theater as a kid.
Speaker AYeah, it was good.
Speaker BI don't.
Speaker AI'm sure that I did see it in the theater, but I don't remember seeing it in the theater.
Speaker AI can just remember watching it on like HBO and whatever.
Speaker CThat's a good sound.
Speaker CI remember seeing it in the theater because I remember crying at the end because it was my dad that took me to see it.
Speaker CAnd when Vader dies, you know, you're a kid and you're like, that's really sad.
Speaker CEven though Vader was a mass murderer and a galactic terrorist.
Speaker AAnd, like, the weirdest looking old, white, wrinkly mast.
Speaker AHe looked like a corpse.
Speaker AGross.
Speaker AThey would have made him cool looking if they made that movie today.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThey would have put Hayden Christensen in there, right?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CI'm surprised they didn't do that.
Speaker BSo they just hadn't thought about it yet.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CWait for the 25th or 30th or 50th anniversary edition.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo we do this every time, and our answers are always the same.
Speaker ABut ranking this movie, I mean, same as last time.
Speaker BLike, it's.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BIt's my favorite.
Speaker AThis is our favorite.
Speaker CIt's my favorite, but it's, like, number
Speaker Atwo for all of us.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AIf we were objectively ranked.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CFavorite, not best.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ATo me, this was Star wars for a long time.
Speaker ALike, this is what I saw.
Speaker AAnd then I was like, oh, there's two more crazy.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CLuke with the green lightsaber.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CBlack outfit all.
Speaker AJabba the Hut.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker CBoba Fett, slave Leia.
Speaker BBoba Fett.
Speaker BBoba.
Speaker CBoba Fett.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CSalacious Crumb.
Speaker CMy favorite little side character.
Speaker ALeia in her bounty hunter disguise and Lando in his whatever, skiff guard disguise.
Speaker ALike, so many toys, so many outfits.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ALoved it.
Speaker ASome of us kind of aged a little weird.
Speaker ALike the slave Leia stuff.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker AWhat does he want to happen there?
Speaker AIt occurred to me today not to go on, like, a clerk's riff, but.
Speaker ABut when he blows up Jabba's palace, I'm like, he slaughtered everyone in his entourage.
Speaker AEveryone that was just hanging out that day.
Speaker ALike, let's go hang out with Jabba
Speaker CPlouf, the leader of the jizz band.
Speaker CThose guys, they were just working a gig, man.
Speaker AWhole jizz band is dead.
Speaker CJizz band gone.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThat big ship, I'm sure had, like, people piloting it and cleaning it and cooking down below and whatever.
Speaker ALike, there's a whole staff involved.
Speaker CNice job, Luke.
Speaker ALuke was like, I got to get my boy.
Speaker ASo they're all dead now.
Speaker AWas that the last time he was on Tatooine?
Speaker CI think so.
Speaker AThose Skywalkers go to Tatooine, commit a little light genocide just a little bit.
Speaker AJust touch and go on with their day.
Speaker BHate that place.
Speaker AThey do.
Speaker CIt's got sand so much.
Speaker CIt's everywhere.
Speaker ASo what does this movie have?
Speaker AThe other movies do not Have Ewoks an ending?
Speaker AIt does have an ending.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThis was designed.
Speaker CThis was designed to be the end.
Speaker AThis is the end.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker BOh, he skipped.
Speaker BWhat do you love and what do you hate about this movie?
Speaker AWe're still in that, I guess.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CYeah, sorry.
Speaker AWhat do you love?
Speaker COkay, he made notes.
Speaker CAll right.
Speaker BI made notes on what do you hate?
Speaker BBecause what do you love about this movie?
Speaker BWe've talked about this before, but if you haven't listened to this, this movie basically is like.
Speaker BWhen I think of my childhood, I think about this movie and Prince and Michael Jackson.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CIt's great combo.
Speaker BThose are, like, the things that shaped my childhood.
Speaker BSo that is the main reason why I love this movie.
Speaker BWhat do I hate about this movie?
Speaker BThat new goddamn musical scene in Jabba's lair.
Speaker BAnd also the fact that Boba Fett goes out like a punk.
Speaker CSo we got it.
Speaker CWe gotta.
Speaker CWe gotta set a little bit of a.
Speaker CSome guidelines here.
Speaker CAre we talking about the movie that we just watched or are we talking about the movie that we watched as children?
Speaker CIt's a combo 400 times in a row.
Speaker BThe movie I loved as a child did not have this fucking scene.
Speaker CIt is such a grind.
Speaker CIt is such a bad.
Speaker CJust sand in the gears.
Speaker CGrinds everything to a halt.
Speaker CIt's not necessary.
Speaker CIt's terrible.
Speaker ALike, do kids like it?
Speaker AAre little kids?
Speaker ALike, I like the part where the Joe Cocker guy comes out.
Speaker AAnd it doesn't even look good.
Speaker ALike, when her, like, lips come at the camera.
Speaker AI'm just.
Speaker CThat's when they were trying to make 3D a thing, right?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker AAnd he was like, we just got in computers.
Speaker ALook what we can do.
Speaker AI'm like, this is like 10 years after Jurassic Park.
Speaker AWhy does it look so terrible?
Speaker CNobody asked for that.
Speaker CIt's terrible.
Speaker CSo when you're going.
Speaker CWhen you're talking about who died on the sail barge.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AThey didn't have a lot more to offer.
Speaker CYeah, no, that was.
Speaker CThat was their moment at the top.
Speaker CIs that the only thing you hate or is there more that you hate?
Speaker BThose are the two that I wrote down.
Speaker AI hate that the emperor dies, and I hope they find a way to bring him back.
Speaker CHe did fall right into the damn.
Speaker CHe fell in and blew up the power generator.
Speaker CThe reactor core.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CExploded.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CWhere the hell.
Speaker BHe exploded.
Speaker CHow the hell.
Speaker CWe'll get into the how the hells.
Speaker BLater, but.
Speaker CAnd that's a different movie, so.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAnd we know the.
Speaker AWe know how the hell that's Right.
Speaker ASomehow.
Speaker CSomehow.
Speaker ASomehow.
Speaker CSomehow.
Speaker CWhat else was new?
Speaker CWhat else was new for this different special edition?
Speaker CSo we had the big song and dance number.
Speaker CAnd Jabba's palace, we had.
Speaker CThere's a slightly different celebratory ending sequence where we see Coruscant and a couple of other planets.
Speaker AAnd then triples the number of planets in this movie.
Speaker CRight, right.
Speaker CAnd then Vader, they added to him saying, no, no.
Speaker CWhen he throws the.
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker CIt didn't need it.
Speaker CI always thought it was more menacing that he was just silent the whole time and he was like, nope.
Speaker CThrowing you over the edge.
Speaker COut you go.
Speaker AIt is.
Speaker AIt is funny to me.
Speaker AIn that scene, there's a part where, like, he's sitting there, like, he's hitting them with the lightning.
Speaker AAnd then Vader kind of, like, walks over.
Speaker ALike, he's like, what are you doing to him?
Speaker ALike, he just kind of, like, looks over his shoulder for a second, and then you, like, see him, like, turn his head and, like, obviously he's not speaking, so there's no emotion.
Speaker AIt's just a Vader mask moving back and forth.
Speaker ALike.
Speaker AAnd then he.
Speaker AAnd then they add in the no.
Speaker CDo you think it needed the no?
Speaker AI don't think it needed the no, because you get the idea he's pretty upset about his son dying in front of him.
Speaker CAnd I think it's the same no scream from the end of Revenge of the Sith.
Speaker BI was just.
Speaker CI think it's the same sample.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BWe've already got this recorded.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's a little callback.
Speaker BLet's do it.
Speaker BThey probably did that when they were adding Hayden in for the Force Ghost at the.
Speaker BFor the DVD release.
Speaker AThere was also.
Speaker AThere's a big talk in some memes and whatnot not too long ago about in the scene where he's taking his mask off at the end and he's dying and, like, the world is crumbling around them.
Speaker AI remember seeing someone say you can hear, like, laser blasts, but there's no Rebels on the Death Star, so that must be stormtroopers shooting each other, yada, yada.
Speaker ABut this time I watched it, and you can hear some explosions, but I think it's just because things are falling apart.
Speaker AI don't think it's blaster fire.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo I don't know.
Speaker ABe careful what you read on the Internet.
Speaker AThat's all I'm saying.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CYou mean it's not true?
Speaker BSometimes Abraham Lincoln said that once.
Speaker AHe did.
Speaker AWe saw the Emperor as a hologram in Empire.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker ABut this is the first time we see him, so that's cool.
Speaker CAnd it was pretty cool that Lucas.
Speaker CThe way that they aged.
Speaker CIan McDermott.
Speaker CBoy, that worked out well for him.
Speaker AThat was some forethought, right?
Speaker CTo be able to bring him back as Palpatine in the prequels and then somehow again as the Emperor.
Speaker AAs Zombie Emperor.
Speaker AZombie Emperor.
Speaker CAnd he was fun in that movie.
Speaker CWe'll get to that movie in a bit, but too soon.
Speaker AWe will get to that movie too soon.
Speaker CGotcha.
Speaker CAll right, what's next?
Speaker AI think we're gonna do space balls before.
Speaker ABefore we do.
Speaker CBefore we get to Rise of Skywalker.
Speaker AI feel like that's all for the first.
Speaker BThat looks like.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AWhere do I say all the planets?
Speaker ADo I usually do that in the facts?
Speaker CI think that's usually in facts and figures.
Speaker AI'm screwing this all up.
Speaker ASo we start off above Endor, right?
Speaker AWhich is we're just in space, but we're at the Death Star, too.
Speaker CElectric Boogaloo.
Speaker ASo we're above Endor, then we go to Tatooine, Then we go to Dagobah, and then we go back to Endor, and that's all we do.
Speaker CBut then with this.
Speaker AAnd then we add.
Speaker CWe add in Bespin.
Speaker ASo we go Baskin, Coruscant, and Naboo.
Speaker COh, that's right.
Speaker BNaboo.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker AYeah, we saw one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CHow they go again?
Speaker BLisa 1.
Speaker AThat's the best part.
Speaker BYou hear if it's.
Speaker BIf it's not Jar Jar, you hear a goddamn gunman say, lisa won.
Speaker AOh, I have to go back and listen, though.
Speaker BNo, I wasn't watching closely enough to see.
Speaker BBut I heard it yesterday when we were children.
Speaker AThis.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThe Death Star blows up.
Speaker AAnd then we just see Ewoks dancing, right?
Speaker AAnd singing a lovely song that we all love, right?
Speaker CAnd the song.
Speaker CThe lyrics for the song were about how they were gonna eat all of the stormtroopers that they killed, make drums out of there.
Speaker CWe're gonna make drum kits out of their armor, and we're going to eat them.
Speaker AThey're like.
Speaker AThere's a whole army.
Speaker CHan, you're going to eat this stormtrooper.
Speaker AWe're living well forever now.
Speaker ASo many, well, humans.
Speaker CThat was right up until their entire ecosystem and planet died from the fallout of the Death Star blowing up in the sub atmosphere.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CSo, like, there's been whole papers written about how the Death Star blowing up above the planet, like, that would have killed everything on Endor.
Speaker AAnd when we go back in Is it rising?
Speaker CWe go back to that Death Star.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BIt fell indoor was a moon.
Speaker BSo if it's not orbiting anything, then what?
Speaker AYeah, I was wondering that too, because they're like, this is the forest moon of Endor.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, so there's a bunch of different moons of.
Speaker CThis is a planet.
Speaker AThat one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's mooning.
Speaker CMooning the forest mooning of Endor.
Speaker ABut when we go back in that other movie, there's just like.
Speaker AThere's like a little ocean and there's some grassland, but we don't really see any.
Speaker CThere's no Ewoks.
Speaker AEwoks.
Speaker COr anything other than grass.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABut there is a dagger that you can hold up and it tells you where the throne room is in the wreckage.
Speaker AWhat a stupid.
Speaker CAll right, so it's kind of like the doubloon from Goonies.
Speaker CWe'll talk about Goonies later.
Speaker AWait, what's wrong with the doubloon?
Speaker AOh, because it messes up with the.
Speaker CIt's like the doubloon from Goonies when they find that.
Speaker ABut it makes sense in Goonies.
Speaker AGoonies.
Speaker CI'm just saying it's a treasure map they use.
Speaker ASIFs don't make treasure maps.
Speaker CCome on.
Speaker CThey are SIFs.
Speaker ACFS make holocrons.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CLittle magic eight balls.
Speaker CIs this it?
Speaker AI think that is.
Speaker CAll signs point to yes.
Speaker CIs that it for facts and things?
Speaker AI think that's it.
Speaker AI think that's round one.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker AIn the bag.
Speaker BWas that your butt?
Speaker AThat was down my butt.
Speaker CHey, do you love jizz?
Speaker CDo you spend your afternoons in a cantina drinking blue milk and listening to jizz?
Speaker CDo you like Max Rebo, the Galactic Jizz Whalers?
Speaker CCatch a speeder to Tatooine and take your lady to Jabba's palace.
Speaker CLet some of our fresh hot jizz wash over you.
Speaker BAnd we're back.
Speaker AAnd we're back.
Speaker CAnd we're back.
Speaker ARound two.
Speaker AForce lightning round.
Speaker CLet's do it.
Speaker ALet's go.
Speaker AWhat's the best scene in our favorite movie?
Speaker BLet's just.
Speaker ALet's just throw some out.
Speaker BI really like the Tatooine Sarlacc pit scene.
Speaker ASo I like pit.
Speaker CThe.
Speaker CThe whole Sail Barge escape sequence,
Speaker Awhich is skipping over Java's palace and fighting the rancor and all that.
Speaker AThat's a whole thing.
Speaker AThe whole setup.
Speaker AI love that whole thing where they're setting up, whereas each one of them arrives and they all take their place in the place.
Speaker CLuke coming in.
Speaker CBack lit.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CUsing the Force to open the door.
Speaker AThat's pretty cool.
Speaker CThat's pretty cool.
Speaker BThat's the good Luke standing on our he is podcast table.
Speaker AHe's here today judging us.
Speaker ASo then we have Dagobah.
Speaker AWe just go there so Yoda can die.
Speaker AThat's pretty sad little thing.
Speaker AAnd then he can find out about his sister.
Speaker AWe go.
Speaker AThen we go to Endor, and we've got.
Speaker AMeeting the Ewoks.
Speaker CThe speed of light chase is pretty iconic, but that's a chase.
Speaker CI mean, that's.
Speaker CIs this a scene or favorite scene or visual?
Speaker AOkay, we'll get to the chase later.
Speaker CYeah, Rancor scene's pretty damn good.
Speaker CWe shouldn't have skipped over that.
Speaker CYeah, Rancor's really good because he's holding a thermal detonator.
Speaker CLike, that whole sequence is pretty great.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker AAnd then we have the Ewoks fighting.
Speaker AThen basically the climax.
Speaker AI was tracking this for a while, but I think I let it go.
Speaker ABut I was tracking how many different things are going on at the same time in the climax.
Speaker AThis one's got three.
Speaker AThis one's got fighting on Endor.
Speaker AThis one's got the space fighting with Lando and Akbar.
Speaker CThe whole fleet is gonna be.
Speaker CIs at risk if they can't bring the shields down.
Speaker AThey can't fight until the shields come down.
Speaker AAnd then on the Death Star, you have the throne room and throne room.
Speaker ASo all three of those things happening at the same time.
Speaker CSo, I mean, that's a pretty good scene too.
Speaker APretty good.
Speaker CI mean, the climax, the.
Speaker CThe saber duel between Vader and Luke, them locking horns is.
Speaker CThat's a pretty iconic scene.
Speaker BThis is the thing that I thought about yesterday, though.
Speaker BThis is probably the most linear movie in terms of, like, there's not a lot of side stories.
Speaker ARight, Right.
Speaker BBecause in, like, the other movies, you're like, this is going on and that's going on.
Speaker BAnd that's what made me think about, like, there's different scenes within scenes, but it's not like Luke's fucking off on another planet somewhere.
Speaker BAnd sometimes in, like, the prequels, Obi
Speaker AWan dipped for side quest.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CSupposed to go take down Grievous.
Speaker BAnd this is all kind of boom, boom, boom.
Speaker AThis is, let's go get Han, because all of us gotta go blow up the Death Star again.
Speaker CAnd that's.
Speaker CThat's kind of.
Speaker CAnd I noticed that this time, like, the whole first act is about, let's go get Han.
Speaker CWhich I'm here for it, and I love it.
Speaker AYeah, it's.
Speaker CIt has Nothing to do with the overall plot of the movie.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker CIt's just.
Speaker ALet's go get Han resolving the end of the last one, huh?
Speaker BLove it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd I do think that if this trilogy came out now and the third one, we were.
Speaker AWe're looking forward to the third one.
Speaker ACan't wait.
Speaker AWhat did they come up with?
Speaker ADeath Star Part 2?
Speaker AI think we'd be pissed.
Speaker ABe like, that's it.
Speaker AYou made another Death Star.
Speaker AGuys, you can come up with another idea.
Speaker AWe would be pissed.
Speaker CWe would be right now.
Speaker AI'm not pissed.
Speaker AI love it.
Speaker ASo it's okay.
Speaker AI'm just putting that out there that Star wars fans would hate it.
Speaker BIt's funny.
Speaker BFor as much as we on Lucas for the prequels, we've eased up on it some, obviously, thanks to the Clone Wars.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BAnd Dave Filoni.
Speaker BThanks.
Speaker BDave Filoni, but which he worked closely with Lucas on.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAt least initially, anyway.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo it's like we're shitting on him all the time, but it's funny.
Speaker BI've never thought about that.
Speaker BThe best you could do was the fucking Death Star, too.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CSo I read something today.
Speaker CI was going down a rabbit hole looking at facts and figures for this movie, and there's.
Speaker CI don't know if this was a fan assessment or if this was intentional or not, but, like, The Death Star 2 was a trap for the rebellion that the emperor set.
Speaker CIt makes sense.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker CThey don't talk about that in the movie, though.
Speaker CLike, the whole thing, other than, like, it's all going according to my plan.
Speaker CWell, I mean, yeah, he said that, but, like.
Speaker AOh, Akbar knew.
Speaker CAkbar.
Speaker CWell, he knew it was a trap.
Speaker AHe said it's a trap.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker COr like Mad Max said in Fury Road, that's bait.
Speaker ASo what's the best scene?
Speaker CProbably slave Leia.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI think it might still be Java for me.
Speaker ALike, that was.
Speaker AThat was Star Wars.
Speaker CThat was Star Wars.
Speaker AMm.
Speaker ABecause you get what's the best use of the Force in this movie?
Speaker ABecause in that scene we have the Jedi mind trick, which works on.
Speaker COn the guard, on the henchmen, but
Speaker Anot wacky tentacle head.
Speaker ABut it doesn't work on Jabba, which is always funny.
Speaker CI like the fact that Luke has to use, like, good old fashioned dirty street fighting to defeat the rancor with the.
Speaker BThe bone.
Speaker CWith the bone in the mouth.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BSo hear me out.
Speaker BBest use of the Force.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe Force kick that Luke does on the skiff when he misses the kai by, like, three feet.
Speaker BWhat if that was a force kick?
Speaker CIt is now.
Speaker CAnd what I love about it is, back then they just had film.
Speaker CSo it was like.
Speaker CDid he get it?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker CI'm gonna figure it out later.
Speaker AGreat, look.
Speaker BGreat.
Speaker CYeah, we got it.
Speaker BMoving on down here, boss.
Speaker CMoving on.
Speaker ALosing daylight.
Speaker BThey're out there just sweating balls, changing wardrobe between each take.
Speaker BI got him square in the nose.
Speaker CYeah, we got him.
Speaker AWe got him.
Speaker CLook, he's all bloody.
Speaker BLet's go.
Speaker AAnother thing that did change big time is when we were kids, the Sarlacc was a pit with some little teeth sticking out.
Speaker COh, that's right.
Speaker CThey added in.
Speaker CIt didn't have a crab.
Speaker AIt didn't have Mouth Audrey two from.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ALittle Shop of Horrors living in there.
Speaker CThat's right.
Speaker CI forgot about that.
Speaker AIt was just a hole you fell in.
Speaker ABut now it's like.
Speaker ALike when Boba Fett rolls into it, that thing comes out and, like, chomps him and, like, pulls him in.
Speaker AIt's like, that wasn't real.
Speaker AThat wasn't really there before, but it's fine.
Speaker ADoes the sarlacc pit.
Speaker ADoes the sarlacc.
Speaker CWe're gonna get into this now.
Speaker AReproduce.
Speaker AWe can.
Speaker AWe can save it for later.
Speaker CLet's save it for later.
Speaker CNo, because we're on Tatooine and we already know the Crate Dragon has the biggest dong.
Speaker ABut it's not in this movie.
Speaker CNot in this movie.
Speaker ABut it's on that planet Planet Rancor.
Speaker CHung like an elephant.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALet's just do it now.
Speaker ALet's just talk about dongs.
Speaker BThat's a whole other round, right?
Speaker BThat's a round three.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker AI have it at the end of this round.
Speaker AWe can move it up.
Speaker AWhat else?
Speaker BWhat else?
Speaker ABig.
Speaker AYeah, it's this biggest dong on the page.
Speaker AThis is organized.
Speaker ASo I don't think the sarlacc has a dong.
Speaker AI think it's more like a jellyfish sort of thing that probably.
Speaker CYeah, like a sandy jellyfish.
Speaker CI like it.
Speaker AChop one of those tentacles off and throw it in the sand and ta da.
Speaker CNew Sarlacc.
Speaker AYou got a new Sarlacc pit in a few years.
Speaker AA little one.
Speaker AIt can only be poodles and stuff, but it's there.
Speaker BOkay,
Speaker Aso it might be rancor.
Speaker AMight be the biggest.
Speaker CI'm thinking rancor.
Speaker AUnless Jabba is a dong.
Speaker BI just took some pictures that are going on social media.
Speaker BThis is.
Speaker BWhat do you think Cory Martin is talking about right now?
Speaker BAnd anybody that's listening to this podcast for more than three minutes.
Speaker BIts nose, it's a dong
Speaker Adong.
Speaker CHis Java the Hut.
Speaker AHe might,
Speaker Cyou know, as one of them, he walks.
Speaker AAll right, let's get back to the Force lighting.
Speaker ALet's get serious about things.
Speaker CSerious.
Speaker AWhat's the best line from this movie?
Speaker AI wrote a couple things down.
Speaker BOh, I've got a couple go.
Speaker BHold on, let me go back.
Speaker AYoda says, strong am I with the Force, but not that strong.
Speaker BSo this is one I've never paid that much attention to before.
Speaker BIt's Han.
Speaker BHe says, how are we doing?
Speaker BAnd Luke says, same as always.
Speaker BAnd Han says, that bad, huh?
Speaker CThat is a good line from a
Speaker Acertain point of view.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker ASays Obi Wan.
Speaker CThe whole Obi Wan sequence.
Speaker CWe'll get into that when we get nerdy with it.
Speaker CBut that's a good line.
Speaker CI love the fact that Leia flips the whole I love you.
Speaker CI know.
Speaker CYeah, that was good.
Speaker BThat's good.
Speaker AAnd then when Luke throws down his saber in front of Vamper and he says, you failed.
Speaker AHe says, I am a Jedi like my father before me.
Speaker CThat's a good one.
Speaker AGood line.
Speaker CThat is a good line.
Speaker CI like the line when Leia finds out from Luke that she's his sister.
Speaker CAnd she goes, really?
Speaker COh, wait, that's not it.
Speaker AWhat she actually says is, somehow I always knew.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, well, why you keep kissing him?
Speaker CStop.
Speaker ASomehow you always.
Speaker ABecause it was no fun to kiss him.
Speaker AThat's why.
Speaker CThat's why.
Speaker AShe's like, I always knew because I was not ever actually attracted to you.
Speaker CIt was clammy.
Speaker ASo Sandy, best villain of this movie.
Speaker ASo we got.
Speaker AWe got Jabba, we got Boba Fett's in there, we got Vader, we got Emperor.
Speaker CI mean, this is kind of the Emperor show.
Speaker AIt is.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CPalpatine.
Speaker CIt's all happening according to my design, right?
Speaker AWhen he.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AThat scene where he arrives and there's like, the big, like, thousands of soldiers that I've seen now is actually a matte painting.
Speaker AAnd I, like, rewounded and paused it and watched that like five times.
Speaker AI was like, this is a painting.
Speaker AThis is a painting.
Speaker ALike, it still just looks like a thousand people standing there.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker AIt's crazy how that works.
Speaker ABut when they're in that scene and he's, like, walking through and he's like.
Speaker AAnd he's like.
Speaker ASays he says something threatening.
Speaker AAnd he.
Speaker AAnd I was watching him with subtitles, and then it's.
Speaker AHahaha.
Speaker AI was like, he's just laughing at him.
Speaker ALike, line up the army so I can laugh at them.
Speaker AThat's what the emperor is like, what a jerk.
Speaker AHe wins that guy.
Speaker ABest villain.
Speaker CHe's a bad guy.
Speaker AHe's the bad guy about side character.
Speaker CSo this is interesting.
Speaker CSo by the time this movie comes out, Star wars is just a huge franchise.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CEverybody is all about the Star Wars.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CHarrison Ford is an even bigger movie star by the time this movie comes
Speaker Aout because he's already Indiana.
Speaker CHe's Indiana Jones.
Speaker CHe is a huge movie star.
Speaker CSo he's the bigger star in this movie.
Speaker CBut it's Luke's movie.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CAnd it's fun to watch Luke play sidecar character to Harrison Ford's starring moments.
Speaker CLike the whole first chapter is, let's go get Han.
Speaker CBecause Harrison Ford is the star.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BYou right?
Speaker CSo Luke is sometimes the best side character in.
Speaker CIn the movie where he's the protagonist.
Speaker BCan't argue that.
Speaker BReally.
Speaker CSalacious Crumb's my favorite side character.
Speaker CI love that little freaky beak thing.
Speaker AWe also have Wicket.
Speaker CWicket.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWho I feel like our whole lives, the Ewoks have been given.
Speaker AGiven a lot of.
Speaker BI just pulled out pocket Wicket.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker APeople throw shade on the Ewoks.
Speaker CI like them.
Speaker AI like the Ewoks.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThat they're for, like, they eat Stormtroopers, so whatever.
Speaker CAnd Lucas wanted, you know, an underestimated in the Emperor underestimated the Ewoks.
Speaker CYou know, low tech, no tech.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CBut they were.
Speaker CThey were able to get the job done.
Speaker AJust little fellas, little hands I do have on here.
Speaker AIf we should talk about little people.
Speaker AAnd then I put.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker CAre we going to commercial break?
Speaker AMoving on.
Speaker ABest location set or planet we got.
Speaker AIt's got to be Javas andor Java's Palace.
Speaker CThere was something Death Star too mysterious about Jabba's palace.
Speaker CI loved it.
Speaker ALike, the throne room or whatever on the Death Star.
Speaker ANever.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's too industrial.
Speaker AIt's not like it should be more ceremonial.
Speaker CWe're still building it.
Speaker AThey're still like.
Speaker AThere's all these, like, balconies full of, like, control panels and stuff.
Speaker AI'm like, what is all this stuff?
Speaker CThey're still building the hospital.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd then he needed a desk, though.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHe doesn't have a desk in there.
Speaker AHe just has a chair that spins so he can look out the window.
Speaker CAnd on that point, the IMDb trivia for that.
Speaker CFor that specifically said that the.
Speaker CThe chair.
Speaker CThe throne.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CWas designed to have a motor so that it would rotate and it didn't work.
Speaker CAnd it's really.
Speaker CIan McDermott shuffling his feet.
Speaker AI was wondering that.
Speaker CTo move the chair in position just
Speaker Aone time where it turns around.
Speaker CHe's not using the Force.
Speaker CHe's not using the Force.
Speaker CHe's using twinkle toes to move that damn chair around.
Speaker AWhat kind of shoes does the Emperor wear?
Speaker CI think he wears those, like, running shoes that are like sock toes.
Speaker CAnd I bet he's got, like, a really long, big toe.
Speaker ABony.
Speaker ASee, I was thinking more like what the Pope wears, where it's like red velvet, like slippers.
Speaker AI bet he's.
Speaker AI bet he.
Speaker AI bet he dresses for comfort.
Speaker AHe's always in robes.
Speaker CHe's always in his robe.
Speaker CHe's totally commando under there.
Speaker AHe can't put a shirt on.
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker ASo what's our favorite location?
Speaker CThe throne room.
Speaker AApparently,
Speaker Cfor me, it's Jabba's palace.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah, agreed.
Speaker ABest ship.
Speaker ASo we have Super Star Destroyers.
Speaker AWe have all of the fleet for both sides.
Speaker AThere's a lot of ships in there.
Speaker CFor me, as a kid, it was for.
Speaker CI'm gonna go with the Tidarium shuttle.
Speaker AOh, yeah, it was.
Speaker CThat shuttle was so.
Speaker CI never had, like, any of the big toy pieces as a kid.
Speaker CI just had a couple of the figures and, like, maybe the land speeder.
Speaker CI had an X Wing, but I remember for Christmas one year, I got the Tydarian shuttle, which was a big playset.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker CAnd the B wing.
Speaker CSo those two.
Speaker CI'm biased.
Speaker CThose two are my favorite.
Speaker AI like the B wing.
Speaker CYeah, but the Tadarian shuttle.
Speaker CI mean, Han and Luke and Leia and Chewie and they're all in that.
Speaker CRight when they're taking it down to Endor.
Speaker BThat whole.
Speaker CIt's an old code, but it checks out.
Speaker CThat's them and the shuttle.
Speaker AAnd somehow they've also got, like, a whole, like, platoon of other soldiers hidden in there.
Speaker CThey're cramped.
Speaker CThey are just cramped down.
Speaker AThey're in the cargo bin.
Speaker ABest chase.
Speaker ASo this has one of the best chases.
Speaker CSpeeder bike chase.
Speaker AYeah, maybe the best one.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AThe speeder bikes on Endor.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThem shits look good.
Speaker BThem shits look good.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThey have a.
Speaker AThere's also the scene where they're flying through the Death Star to get to the middle, where they blow it up, which is another kind of.
Speaker AWhen they knock the money off of them.
Speaker COh, that's right.
Speaker AMillennium Falcon.
Speaker AOh, that was too close.
Speaker ASo, like, those are both kind of in the Star wars vein of, like, I'm flying a ship a thousand miles an hour inside a cave or whatever.
Speaker ABut, yeah, like the.
Speaker AThe indoors speeder bikes.
Speaker AI was like, you would be dead in a minute trying to do that in real life.
Speaker AAnd I want to.
Speaker AI want to die.
Speaker CI want to ride a speeder bike through the redwood forest.
Speaker ABest shot is there, like a cinematic shot of this movie?
Speaker CLuke back lit using the Force to open the palace door all by himself walking in.
Speaker CAnd as the door is closing, that Gamorrean guard walks up to him, and Luke doesn't even talk to him.
Speaker CHe just force pushes him back against the wall.
Speaker AOh, yeah, that's.
Speaker CThat's my favorite shot.
Speaker BI can't argue that.
Speaker AAnd there's the one where they're like, outside Jabba's palace and it's like the sun's going down and there's two frogs or something sitting on the.
Speaker AAnd one of them eats the other.
Speaker AI don't think that was there when we were kids.
Speaker CNo, the shot was.
Speaker CBut the.
Speaker CThe two.
Speaker AOne of them eats the other or something.
Speaker AYeah, that's new.
Speaker CSo is that your vote for favorite or.
Speaker ANo, no, it's probably when he's looking out that little window at the fleets fighting each other, and Luke, like, turns around and he's looking at the saber.
Speaker ALike, there's something about that shot where, like, they have the whole battle outside is framed in that window.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker CAnd when we get to the Last Jedi, we're going to talk about the callbacks to that scene.
Speaker BGood.
Speaker CI know.
Speaker CI'm telling you.
Speaker CSo this may be presumptuous on my part, preemptive, whatever you want to call it, but I. I pitched.
Speaker COr premature.
Speaker CI pitched our producer, Corey Hannah, an idea that we should live watch and record the Last Jedi together.
Speaker AWhy that one?
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker CBecause we're gonna argue in that one the most for that reason.
Speaker CThat's why we agree on most of these points together.
Speaker CBut on that one, we're gonna get into a fight.
Speaker CI think we should do that one.
Speaker CIt may not work out.
Speaker ASo if this podcast is missing anything, it is disagreement.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AWe are always like, what's the favorite one?
Speaker BThe tagline for this show could be.
Speaker BYeah, you right.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CYeah, it was awesome.
Speaker AI think so, too.
Speaker ADid we say best use of the Force already?
Speaker CYes, it was
Speaker Bbest toy.
Speaker BYou skipped all this.
Speaker AI move around on him.
Speaker BYeah, he's.
Speaker CHe's.
Speaker CHe's remixing on the fly.
Speaker BYeah, my bad, my bad.
Speaker ADang.
Speaker CI thought we agreed that it was Luke's Force kick.
Speaker AOh, yeah, it was the Force kick.
Speaker AThat's true.
Speaker AKick a kick.
Speaker ABest fight.
Speaker ASo we have the big duel at the end.
Speaker ASaber duel.
Speaker CSaber duel.
Speaker CShould probably win.
Speaker BI still ran.
Speaker CCore is pretty damn good though.
Speaker BThe best one is when R2 slings that saber across the pit.
Speaker AHe catches it and it's on.
Speaker AYeah, it's on like Donkey Kong.
Speaker BSo that's how you throw up the signal that you ready to fight when
Speaker Cyour robot shoots a lightsaber into the sky.
Speaker BI wish in the edit they would have tightened that up.
Speaker BJust because Luke's got his hand up for like a half of a Eternity.
Speaker BShaved 20 goddamn frames.
Speaker CHe's got like 17 rifles pointed at him.
Speaker CHe's standing on the edge of the plank.
Speaker CHe's like, hold on, guys.
Speaker BWait.
Speaker CJust come on.
Speaker CTwo seconds.
Speaker CLike a little too much horsepower.
Speaker CThere are too, too much, too much spring there.
Speaker BYeah, hold up.
Speaker BLet me catch the saber real quick.
Speaker AAlso.
Speaker AHow much?
Speaker AHow many?
Speaker AHow come?
Speaker AHow come?
Speaker AWhy do they have so many guns in the Star wars universe that come in four big heavy pieces that a bunch of people have to put it together in the middle of the fight before they could.
Speaker ALike that happens.
Speaker BIt was just a party barge at first, baby.
Speaker BThey was just there to fight.
Speaker CThey were just there for drinking.
Speaker AThey weren't there to open the trunk.
Speaker AWe got that big.
Speaker CThey were like, get the battery out.
Speaker BWatch this guy get it.
Speaker CGet the tripod.
Speaker CThere's always a hose.
Speaker AAnd he'd just shoot the box.
Speaker AAnd then everyone dies.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker AIn the video games.
Speaker BSo
Speaker Anot the best design.
Speaker ABut that being said, what's the best toy from this movie?
Speaker BOkay, this is probably going to be young and not agree with this, but I thought the toy of the Rancor monster was badass.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker CToy of the Rancor is pretty badass
Speaker Abecause it was the right size for the other toys to like pick up and chew on and stuff.
Speaker CHow about the speeder bikes with the spring loaded ejection seats and they fly into three pieces.
Speaker AShit, I have those.
Speaker CAnd it would launch.
Speaker CThe guy would launch the speeder bike pilot off the.
Speaker CJust like in the movie.
Speaker CI loved that.
Speaker CThat was good.
Speaker BThat's fun.
Speaker BThe Ewok village was cool.
Speaker CEwok village was cool.
Speaker CThey had that little barbecue pit for cooking and eating the stormtroopers.
Speaker BAnd Han.
Speaker CAnd Han.
Speaker BI just blocked that part of the movie out of my.
Speaker CThey were going to.
Speaker BWe also eating stormtroopers.
Speaker BI'm like, they were fixing a. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker CNo, no, no.
Speaker CThey eat people.
Speaker AYeah, they had.
Speaker AThat didn't it have the little net where you can catch your little people and they get caught in the net and that.
Speaker AI never had Ewok Village, but I
Speaker Bbought it when we were in college.
Speaker BI bought it from Wizards Comics.
Speaker CI bought one for James.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CI bought one for myself.
Speaker CI gave it to James, and it's in the.
Speaker CI got one in the attic.
Speaker AMy vote is going to be my Luke Skywalker, who has been my best friend.
Speaker CMy vote is going to be the
Speaker Bone
Speaker Cthat was my favorite toy.
Speaker AIt seems so big.
Speaker ALike, it's just a ship, but it's like, wings are massive.
Speaker AGood toy.
Speaker AWhat else did I miss?
Speaker CBest outfit, Slave Leia.
Speaker ASlave Leia.
Speaker CI mean, slave Leia is iconic.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker AI've always loved the bounty hunter.
Speaker CShe's gorgeous in it.
Speaker CAnd Luke in the black suit is badass.
Speaker BI put Luke in the black robes or not ribs, but, you know, I mean, the Jedi.
Speaker CYeah, Leia's.
Speaker CLeia's bounty hunter outfit is pretty cool because Bosch.
Speaker AYeah,
Speaker Bit's kind of like.
Speaker CYeah, it's got, like, 14 S's, a couple of C's and H and a silent Q.
Speaker ADoesn't that mean it's a.
Speaker AA clone?
Speaker AThat's it.
Speaker CThat's only if there's two letters.
Speaker CIf you repeat it four times, then it's like dividing by zero.
Speaker CI don't know.
Speaker AIt's right back to where you started.
Speaker CYeah, it's just the one person.
Speaker BThere's a couple more on there.
Speaker BHow woke is this movie?
Speaker AOh, yeah, that's down here.
Speaker AI haven't got.
Speaker BOh, you haven't got in there yet?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASpecial effects won an Oscar.
Speaker AI feel like we would have liked it better before than we do now.
Speaker ALike, it won an Oscar, but they went in and changed everything.
Speaker AYeah, but that's just old people grumbling about stuff.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CWait, hold on.
Speaker CWhere are the old people now?
Speaker AYeah, that's us.
Speaker CThat's us.
Speaker AHow woke is this movie?
Speaker AThere's a shot at the.
Speaker ATowards the end when the emperor first gets there and he says something to somebody, and they're, like, leaving the room and they turn around and there's, like, two dudes standing there.
Speaker AAnd they look just like Nute Gunray, but they're like.
Speaker BYes, I noticed that.
Speaker CThey're like.
Speaker CThey're Viceroys.
Speaker AThey're Viceroys, but they're.
Speaker AThey don't look like they do in the prequels.
Speaker AThey just look like people.
Speaker AI was like, those are, like, unfinished.
Speaker AThey should have went in and should
Speaker Chave gone with those guys.
Speaker APut Those guys faces back on them so they can talk Chinese and pee peeing your coke and do whatever awful, terrible stuff we would have thought was funny back then, but we don't now.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ABecause we are sophisticated.
Speaker BDisclaimer.
Speaker BDisclaimer.
Speaker BDisclaimer.
Speaker AWe're not saying that's funny.
Speaker CI mean, I laughed.
Speaker AI'm saying when I was.
Speaker CIt was more of a defensive laugh.
Speaker AWhen I was six, I would have thought it was funny.
Speaker AActing and the plot, that kind of stuff.
Speaker ANo real complaints in this movie.
Speaker CMakes.
Speaker CIt's fine.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CSave Han, save the day.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSave the cheerleader.
Speaker CWrap it up, galaxy.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALike I said, I never really.
Speaker AI don't.
Speaker AI think I appreciate it more at this time.
Speaker AThe build up in the first scene where they.
Speaker AHow smart it is.
Speaker AIt's almost like a heist movie where they're like putting all the parts in place.
Speaker AAnd then.
Speaker ABecause I don't know if I ever really realized that, like, he goes there without his lightsaber because it's been in R2 the whole time.
Speaker AR2 got there a week before him.
Speaker BOh, I never thought about that.
Speaker CThat's why R2.
Speaker ASo he shows up.
Speaker CHologram.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CWhen R2 plays a hologram and Luke says, keep these two fools as a token of mind gratification because he's hidden
Speaker Ahis saber in there.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker AYeah, Smart.
Speaker BDamn, you just unlocked some.
Speaker CBut here's the thing.
Speaker CLuke always fought dirty.
Speaker CHe's a Skywalker.
Speaker CYeah, right.
Speaker CEvery fight he wins in this movie, he wins by fighting a little dirty.
Speaker CAnd I love it.
Speaker CHe's not a pious Jedi.
Speaker CHe's his father's son.
Speaker AWhen he cuts Vader's hand off, the 10 seconds before that is just him going, right.
Speaker CHe's just fighting.
Speaker AYeah, he's fighting.
Speaker AHe's using it like a baseball bat.
Speaker AHe's not being an elegant samurai.
Speaker ANo moment.
Speaker BTake this deal.
Speaker AHe's gonna break a piece off.
Speaker CIs that a commercial break?
Speaker AWe only got one more thing I want to do in this one, which is put an F bomb in this movie.
Speaker BIt's a fucking trap.
Speaker AThat's what I wrote down too.
Speaker BThat's pretty good.
Speaker AIt's a trap.
Speaker CI'm gonna go with that.
Speaker CI agree.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker BYeah, you right.
Speaker AOnce again, full agreement.
Speaker CJust full agreement.
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Speaker ASquid Star War Round 3 Episode 6 Return of the Jedi.
Speaker ANow we're just getting nerdy with opening up the floor.
Speaker ALet's discuss our favorite things in the world.
Speaker AWe love Star Wars.
Speaker AThis is our favorite Star Wars.
Speaker ALet's just talk about it.
Speaker AYeah, I love it.
Speaker BSo I made several notes for this section.
Speaker CTake it away, boss.
Speaker BLet's start with do we have any how the hells or now that you
Speaker Cthink about it, it's Star Wars.
Speaker CI'm sure there's more than one.
Speaker BHere's one of mine I've thought about before, but I. I've never discussed it.
Speaker BHow the hell the Hans hands end up like this position in the carbonite?
Speaker BBecause when he went down in it, he was handcuffed.
Speaker BAnd secondly, what happened to those handcuffs?
Speaker BCuz he comes, he.
Speaker BWhen he gets unfrozen by Leia, he ain't got no handcuffs on.
Speaker CI'm on a riff on an answer,
Speaker Aso I think I might have an answer, but I think it might be boring.
Speaker AGo ahead.
Speaker CBoba Fett delivers Han from Bespin, but he's frozen, right?
Speaker CHe's frozen.
Speaker CDelivers Han to Jabba, and Jabba's like, defrost him.
Speaker AI want to smack him one time a little bit.
Speaker CJust defrost.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker CI got to check the rice.
Speaker CI'm making a Puerto Rican rice for Christmas.
Speaker CSo that's what that is.
Speaker CSo yeah, Han gets defrosted halfway right.
Speaker CKeep the lower half frozen.
Speaker CAnd Han's like, jabba, Jabba, wait, I can.
Speaker CI can make this work.
Speaker CAnd Jabba's like, psych.
Speaker CFreeze him again.
Speaker CHe's like, linda, Linda, Linda, you're not listening, honey.
Speaker BLinda, listen, listen to me, honey.
Speaker CAnd he says, first of all, I think that's.
Speaker CI think Jabba would have defrosted them, roughed him up a little bit with them, and then refroze them.
Speaker AI just think that there might be a chance if you rewatch Empire, that we see them take those off before they put them in the thing.
Speaker AI think that he's prisoner and they like he kisses and all that and they pull him apart and stand him over there.
Speaker AAnd I think they undo the thing and he's standing in the thing and then drops down.
Speaker BYou might have got me.
Speaker AI think they took the things.
Speaker CThat's probably what happened.
Speaker BYou need to check that rice.
Speaker ABut I ain't right.
Speaker CNo, that's fine.
Speaker ADon't ruin dinner.
Speaker CThere's so much food coming.
Speaker CThat will be all right.
Speaker AForgive me if I've talked about this before, but I was paying special attention when he Burns Vader's body.
Speaker AIt is.
Speaker AHe is wearing his whole outfit.
Speaker AHe's in the suit.
Speaker AIt's not like the.
Speaker AThe helmet's not sitting next to him on the pyre.
Speaker AHe's wearing it.
Speaker AYou see flames and smoke coming out of it.
Speaker ASo when Ben Solo is carrying around that thing and he's got that melted helmet, his is his skull in there.
Speaker BHe could have taken the helmet.
Speaker AIt says Grandpa's head in that.
Speaker CI think he would have taken it out.
Speaker CI think that probably burned all night and burned all the organic matter.
Speaker AI think it was so burnt and melted up.
Speaker AI don't think you can take things out of it.
Speaker AI don't think.
Speaker CI do think it probably smelled real bad when they were doing that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CAnd apparently there's a bunch of, like, echoes to Qui Gon's character and Phantom Menace and Vader's character in this movie.
Speaker CAnd, like, the positioning of the funeral pyre is opposite to Qui Gon.
Speaker BThat's another question I have Right.
Speaker BWritten down is also, why the hell doesn't Anakin disappear when he dies, when Luke.
Speaker CBut he also becomes a Force Ghost, right?
Speaker AHow does he become a Force Ghost when everyone else had to work at it?
Speaker CWell, I mean, he was the greatest Jedi who ever Jedi.
Speaker BDo you have any more?
Speaker BHow the hell.
Speaker ABecause I want more.
Speaker AGo ahead.
Speaker CI mean, I got some nerdy shit, but you got the conch.
Speaker CGo.
Speaker BAlso, how does Leia know exactly what buttons to push when she goes to get Han out of the carbonite?
Speaker BShe walks up, hits a button, hits another button.
Speaker BTwist this fucking knob.
Speaker BYou know, they always know how to get in a goddamn ship and just immediately fly, I think.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker CAll right, hear me out.
Speaker CThere's another movie that we can make with these characters that takes place before Return of the Jedi.
Speaker CSo it's a sidecar movie that happens between Empire and Jedi, and it's the Zero Dark Thirty of Star wars playing.
Speaker AOkay, maybe it's the Geek Squad, right?
Speaker CWhere they're like, it's the ocean's 11 of Star wars where they're planning the heist and, like, they've got a full size mockup, and Leia's, like, practicing, you know, figuring out how to undo the carbonite in less than seven seconds.
Speaker BShe knew exactly what to push.
Speaker CYeah, she's a Jedi somehow.
Speaker BOkay, I don't have any more.
Speaker BHow to hell do you all got any more out of Hells?
Speaker CI got one.
Speaker CI mean.
Speaker AI mean, the fact that Hayden Christensen is the version of his Force Ghost.
Speaker AI know that the explanation is that Anakin died when he became Vader.
Speaker AAnd so that's what he was like when he died.
Speaker CIt is a little off putting, and
Speaker AI love Hayden, but I. I bet you Obi Wan wishes he looked like Ewan McGregor.
Speaker CI think most of us do.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CWish that we looked like.
Speaker AI hope when I die I look like McGregor.
Speaker AAnd Yoda didn't look all that young and sprightly in his ghost either.
Speaker CNo, that's a good.
Speaker CHow the hell.
Speaker BThat is a good one.
Speaker ABut I think that, like.
Speaker AI mean, people have talked about that.
Speaker ALike, it only kind of a little bit makes sense that he shoehorned him back in there.
Speaker AI do wish.
Speaker AI like.
Speaker AAnd so Sebastian Shaw is the name of the guy who plays Anakin with his helmet off.
Speaker ASo it's not David Prowse who's been in the suit the whole time.
Speaker AAnd obviously not.
Speaker BWe're like, hey, you're tall.
Speaker BYou fit this.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker BOtherwise you.
Speaker AThey didn't use his voice.
Speaker AThey didn't use his face.
Speaker APoor dude.
Speaker AAnd so I went and looked.
Speaker AI was like, sebastian Shaw.
Speaker AAnd so he's like this British dude that's been like stage and screen for 50 years before this movie.
Speaker ABut I'm still, like, getting, like, somebody better looking or so, like, I don't have the.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI think when I was a kid.
Speaker AAnd you're like, oh, it's Vader's face.
Speaker CLook.
Speaker COh, my God.
Speaker AYou never get to see Vader's face.
Speaker AThere's Vader's face.
Speaker AIt's like the coolest thing ever.
Speaker ABut now looking back, I'm like, that's kind of a wasted opportunity to just be a pasty old man.
Speaker ALike, it could have been cooler.
Speaker CWell, and how old would Anakin Vader have been in that scene?
Speaker ASo it's been 20 years since.
Speaker ASo he's so.
Speaker CHe's like 45, so.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CThat's a hard 45, man.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI mean, he went through some, though.
Speaker AI mean, to be fair.
Speaker AYeah, he's lived inside of.
Speaker CThat's true.
Speaker BHe's been through it.
Speaker CBut he spends a lot of time in that.
Speaker CBack to Tank, I was gonna say.
Speaker ABut he's also got a castle with a tank.
Speaker AHow is he not, like, making himself look a little better than that?
Speaker CThat's because he let himself.
Speaker CHigher ground.
Speaker CHe did.
Speaker CHe let himself go.
Speaker AThat's just where that is.
Speaker CWell, apparently.
Speaker CWhat's the actor's name?
Speaker ASebastian Shaw.
Speaker CSo Sebastian Shaw shows up on set at Pinewood and Ian McDermott knows him from other work that they've done together.
Speaker CAnd he's like, what are you doing here?
Speaker CAnd Shaw's.
Speaker CHe goes, I don't know.
Speaker CThey won't tell me.
Speaker CBut it's apparently something science fiction.
Speaker CSo he shows up to do that part, has no idea what he's doing.
Speaker AFor reals.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CWell, that's according to the Internet.
Speaker BOh, yeah, Close enough.
Speaker ASo it may be true.
Speaker BThe Internet said it.
Speaker CYeah, well, the Internet says a lot of things.
Speaker AIt's certainly true.
Speaker AFrom a certain point.
Speaker CFrom a certain point of view.
Speaker CWhat do you think about.
Speaker AThis is what I would like to talk about.
Speaker CSo let's talk about that.
Speaker CThat whole scene, the way that you took down the whole Star wars world when you were talking about A New Hope and the Jedi's being liars and all of that.
Speaker CI feel like Lucas kind of addressed that with Obi Wan's character in that scene in Jedi.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean, he tries to.
Speaker AHe's like, all right, listen, I'm dead.
Speaker AThere's no point in lying.
Speaker AYou're the only one left.
Speaker AWe lie all the time.
Speaker BThat's all.
Speaker AWe.
Speaker CWe're just silly with lies.
Speaker AWe just.
Speaker AWe can't.
Speaker CWe just stay
Speaker Alying, just love it.
Speaker AAnd he's like.
Speaker AAnd even in that moment, this is what I noticed for the first time.
Speaker AHe's like.
Speaker AHe's like, hey, right before Yoda died, he said, I have a sister.
Speaker AAnd Obi Wan says, you're right.
Speaker AYou do have a sister.
Speaker ABut listen, you're going up against.
Speaker AYou're going up against some people who can read your mind.
Speaker ASo you don't know who your sister is.
Speaker AShe remains anonymous.
Speaker AThat's for everyone's benefit that it stays that way.
Speaker AWe've been planning this for 20 years.
Speaker AAnd Luke says, it's Leia, isn't it?
Speaker AAnd Obi Wan says, God damn it.
Speaker ADamn it, Luke.
Speaker CShut your mouth, you fucking Skywalker.
Speaker AYeah, he's like.
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker CHe's like, look, you are your father.
Speaker AAs soon as you're in the room with Darth Vader, he's gonna be like, oh, you have a sister.
Speaker AI can read that.
Speaker AOh, is Leia.
Speaker AHe's going to know, and he does.
Speaker AIt happens.
Speaker CSo, I mean, that was Kenobi telling the truth, though.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AHe was like, I can't tell you who.
Speaker AGod damn it, Luke.
Speaker CYou.
Speaker CIf I could just smack you with my ghost head
Speaker Aforest hit a rock up beside your head.
Speaker CFrom a certain point of view.
Speaker AFrom a certain point of view.
Speaker BSpeaking of I need to read those books, tell you all about those.
Speaker BJamie found this series of books called From a Certain Point of View.
Speaker BAnd it's a series of, like, short stories written by minor and side characters.
Speaker AUhhuh.
Speaker BAnd it's like they're retelling of A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back.
Speaker CThat would be kind of fun to see.
Speaker CLike a Rashomon style of.
Speaker BOf.
Speaker COf A New Hope where people are telling it differently.
Speaker BRead them yet?
Speaker BYeah, I've got the New Hope in the Empire book.
Speaker CCory Martin, what's your philosophy about reading Star Wars?
Speaker AI watch Star Wars.
Speaker AI don't.
Speaker AI don't read Star wars.
Speaker AAnd lately they have to twist my arm to watch Star Wars.
Speaker CYeah, we'll get into that in the next episode.
Speaker ANext episode, folks.
Speaker CSo we got some more nerdy stuff.
Speaker BWhat's been retconned?
Speaker AWhat has been retconned out of this movie?
Speaker AWell, Palpatine does not actually die.
Speaker CBoba Fett.
Speaker ALuke is not actually successful in destroying the Empire.
Speaker ALuke does not redeem his father.
Speaker ALike, all the things that we think are the ending of this story undo they shit on in the sequel trilogy.
Speaker BHere's one, though, that I thought was interesting.
Speaker BThat stuck out yesterday was Vader says obi Wan has taught you well.
Speaker BWhen Luke has the high ground after he kicks Vader down the stairs.
Speaker BYeah, it's subtle, right?
Speaker BHe's like, obi Wan has taught you well.
Speaker CYou know, going back to the best use of the Force.
Speaker CI do like it when Vader throws a saber at Luke.
Speaker AIs.
Speaker AIt looks so.
Speaker ALike I'm out of moves.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ALike, now how am I gonna.
Speaker AI'm not jumping up there.
Speaker AI could.
Speaker CThis tired old man could just jump
Speaker Aup there and whoop your ass, but I'm not coming up there.
Speaker CThrows his saber.
Speaker AIn fact, I know this.
Speaker AI know this.
Speaker AThis.
Speaker AThis throne room is very nice, and we're still building it, but I'm gonna wreck the shit out of it right now and chop half of it down, because I'd rather do that than climb up there.
Speaker CDo you know how many stairs there are?
Speaker CDo you know how bad my knees are?
Speaker BDo you know how heavy these goddamn boots are?
Speaker CDo you know that this suit weighs, like 800 pounds?
Speaker BYou.
Speaker CI'm not coming up there.
Speaker AYeah, he just kind of whips it here.
Speaker AI'm knocking that whole cat walk down.
Speaker ATake my sword in.
Speaker AIn the.
Speaker AIn Java's palace, there is a basement, and in that basement, there are droids torturing other droids.
Speaker AOne of them is just burning One of them's feet, just his feet for no reason.
Speaker AAnd he's screaming about it.
Speaker AAnd then another one.
Speaker AThey're like, we built this.
Speaker AWe built this big round frame so you can draw and quarter your.
Speaker AYour droids if you want.
Speaker AAnd that's what we're doing right now.
Speaker AJust for fun.
Speaker AThis isn't a special event you just walked in on.
Speaker AThis is Tuesday morning tearing this dude apart.
Speaker AAnd he likes it.
Speaker AThat's awful.
Speaker AAwful.
Speaker ATatooine.
Speaker AIt is.
Speaker AI feel like the same kind of thing was happening inside of the Jawa thing where they were chopping people up in there.
Speaker CYeah, that's a Tatooine thing.
Speaker CNasty.
Speaker AThen you try to go buy a drink and they're like, we don't serve your kind here.
Speaker CPoor droids.
Speaker ADroids gotta wait outside.
Speaker AAnd they're like, you got Wolfman in here?
Speaker ASatan?
Speaker AYou let Satan sit at the bar over there?
Speaker ASatan.
Speaker AThere's a goddamn six foot tall praying mantis that you didn't think about at all.
Speaker AYou're just like, just make a bug.
Speaker CJust bring the bug over from that other movie, from that other set.
Speaker CHow many more do you know?
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AA wolf man man.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker CGot it.
Speaker CHey, the wolf man.
Speaker CWe should use the Wolfman in the TV show Skeleton Crew.
Speaker CWe'll get to that.
Speaker AWolf man's got nards.
Speaker CHe did have ns.
Speaker BYou stole my line.
Speaker BI was thinking about that earlier.
Speaker ABeat me by two seconds.
Speaker BGod damn creature stole my Twinkie.
Speaker CThat's the other good line from that movie.
Speaker AWe mentioned it before, but that part where like the rancor gets killed and then the rancor keeper comes out, comes out and cries and does a little Hagrid where he's like, I'm a guy that loves big scary things, but it's my baby.
Speaker CI love that scene.
Speaker CYeah, and they did honor that scene in the Book of Boba Fett though, right?
Speaker CThat was cool.
Speaker CI think they.
Speaker CThey redeemed the way the rancor was done dirty in Jedi and Bookaboba.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CSo I had a.
Speaker AOr they pussified it up to you.
Speaker AOne or the other.
Speaker COne or the other.
Speaker CI had a.
Speaker CIt's a little nerdy thing, I guess.
Speaker CBut if you go back and you watch the sail barge sequence right before Luke gets the lightsaber and does the big heroic escape.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker CThe soundtrack, this, the score is, you know, full of tension and these little orchestra hits that build into this little short melody.
Speaker CAnd it's just a great scene on its own.
Speaker CIf you go and you watch the teaser Trailer for the fourth Force Awakens.
Speaker CIt's the exact same music layup.
Speaker CBecause I was watching Jedi for to get ready for the podcast, and I was like, I've.
Speaker CI mean, I know I've heard this before watching the movie, but I've heard this somewhere else and I stopped.
Speaker CAnd if you pull up the trailer for it, it's exactly the same beats.
Speaker BAnd that has been the segment of Jimmy Smart,
Speaker AJimmy Puts It Together.
Speaker AThis kind of fits in with my stupid personal theory about it all being an inside job that they planned ahead of time, but kind of doesn't.
Speaker AWhere Yoda dies and then Obi Wan shows up and he's kind of telling Luke the plan, but only he's like kind of Dumbledore ing it.
Speaker AHe's only telling him just enough to keep him, to keep him moving towards the goal where he's like, yeah, we just need you to.
Speaker ANeed you to go and you have to face Vader.
Speaker AYeah, no big deal.
Speaker ABy the way, also, you'll be facing the Emperor, which Yoda who just died in front of you is the greatest Jedi ever.
Speaker AHe couldn't beat him, but we need you to go there and kill that man.
Speaker AThe strongest Sith in the history of Sith.
Speaker CAnd do you know what else the Jedi's are really good at doing?
Speaker CTelling you you're not ready.
Speaker CI mean, those guys.
Speaker CLuke flies all the way to Dagobah.
Speaker CThe offensive, you know, the decisive offensive attack on the Empire.
Speaker CLuke flies to Dagobah to hang out with his buddy.
Speaker CAnd Yoda's like, I'm old, I'm tired.
Speaker CI'm done.
Speaker CYou built a lightsaber.
Speaker CLook at you.
Speaker CYou did some.
Speaker CYou can flip it.
Speaker CYou're, you're, you're, you're doing all right.
Speaker CI can't teach you anything else.
Speaker CAnd Luke goes, wow, so I am a Jedi.
Speaker CAnd Yoda comes back from the edge of death and says, you're not a Jedi.
Speaker CYou are not a Jedi.
Speaker AHe's like, oh, no.
Speaker CYou will not sit on the Jedi Council.
Speaker AYou must.
Speaker AYou must fight Vader.
Speaker AOnly then a Jedi will you be.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AI'm like, no one else had to kill their dad rule, nobody else to go and fight the hardest dude in the universe to become a Jedi.
Speaker AEverybody else just said, nobody did.
Speaker BAnd she is a Jedi.
Speaker ALook, I just threw three rocks.
Speaker AThree rocks went in the basket.
Speaker AI'm a Jedi.
Speaker AI did my trials.
Speaker BNo, granted, she did train about as much as Luke did.
Speaker BUnless Luke went off and there's like
Speaker Cfive years between a new Hope and Empire and.
Speaker CAnd five more years between Empire and Jedi.
Speaker CLuke clearly had some adventures, but I'm just telling you, Yoda's right there about to die.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker CI know you came all this way, and I hate to tell you, like,
Speaker AI don't have the strength.
Speaker CYou're not the one.
Speaker AOh, but I can get this out.
Speaker BHe said, fuck, yo, Couch.
Speaker AYou're not gonna make it.
Speaker AAnd I don't believe in you.
Speaker CNot gonna make it.
Speaker CBelieve in you.
Speaker CI do not.
Speaker CI love how, as Yoda's dying, there is another Skywalker.
Speaker CLuke is like, what?
Speaker CWhat'd you say?
Speaker CNo, hold on.
Speaker BCome back.
Speaker CSay it again.
Speaker BHe didn't try to slap him or nothing?
Speaker BWake him up?
Speaker CNo, he Poo force ghosted out of there.
Speaker BWhat did he say?
Speaker AHe put his hand up the back.
Speaker AHe's like, let me make him talk.
Speaker AI can make him talk a little bit.
Speaker ANope.
Speaker CDead.
Speaker CHe's gone.
Speaker CWe've lost him.
Speaker AOh, he disappeared.
Speaker ASo I guess he couldn't put his hand up nothing.
Speaker CThat's true.
Speaker CBut then Kenobi shows up.
Speaker CSo I know everything that Yoda just told you seemed like it was important, but here's the truth from a certain point of view.
Speaker AHe shows up, and he's like, look, they gave me 50,000 more dollars.
Speaker ASo here I am to deliver four lines to a blue screen wearing this outfit one more time.
Speaker COne more time.
Speaker AWe believe in you or we don't.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AYou have to go to the thing, kill the guy.
Speaker CMaybe, maybe not.
Speaker AYou have a sister you don't know.
Speaker AGod damn it, Luke.
Speaker AYes, it's her.
Speaker CThat's it.
Speaker CI'm going back to the world between worlds.
Speaker CI'm gonna go hang out with Kane and Jairus.
Speaker AIt's your sister.
Speaker AOne time, the Red Hot Chili Peppers chased her through a forest, and I was there to help her.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BIn the text the other day, he said that the Red Hot Chili Pepper through the forest.
Speaker BI'm like, it's not Flea.
Speaker BIt's not the basement Pepper.
Speaker AI don't recall who was with him.
Speaker AI know Flea was there with three other guys, so I assume Anthony Kiedis was deaf.
Speaker AAnthony and Chad and John Fruscian, maybe.
Speaker AMaybe it's him.
Speaker AMaybe he wasn't in the band at that point.
Speaker AYeah, maybe it's Dave Navarro.
Speaker BDavid made one record.
Speaker CThey named the whole planet after him.
Speaker AYeah, he's got to be out there somewhere making dudes kiss each other.
Speaker AThe Chili Peppers.
Speaker AHe joined the Chili Peppers for one year, and they started Making out with each other.
Speaker AAnd then they got John Frusciante back and Flea was like, why was I kissing Anthony Kiedis?
Speaker AThat's gross.
Speaker APut my sock back on.
Speaker BOn my duck,
Speaker Cladies and gentlemen.
Speaker CThat's the end of the episode.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BDo we have anything else?
Speaker CI think that's it.
Speaker AI think that's it.
Speaker CWe got a little boiler plate here.
Speaker CWe're going to talk about the.
Speaker BI was going to say, let me collect myself.
Speaker CAll the, all the swag that we got.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo if you don't already, you can go to teepublic.com and search for the Alabama take.
Speaker BThat is the store that we have our.
Speaker BOur Merch under the alabamatake.com is a website that hosts several different podcasts on our network.
Speaker BThere's Taking it Down, Pop culture podcast, a couple of book podcasts, a couple of sports podcasts, and I think that's it.
Speaker BAnd us, for some reason, for some reason, they invited.
Speaker AThere's one other one, but I'm not allowed to say it.
Speaker CHe's not allowed to say.
Speaker CSaying that's a.
Speaker CAn off the record podcast.
Speaker BToday Jim bought us for.
Speaker BFor Christmas.
Speaker BWe have pillows and tote bags and magnets and buttons.
Speaker BAnd there's a.
Speaker BHe bought himself a We are a Star War mug.
Speaker CCoffee mug.
Speaker BCoffee mug.
Speaker CIt's real nice.
Speaker CIt's real nice.
Speaker BToo bad they didn't have the.
Speaker BThe, the.
Speaker CThey didn't have a mouse pad.
Speaker BCory Martin.
Speaker COr a beach towel.
Speaker BOr a beach towel.
Speaker BBut you can go to teepublic.com, search for the Alabama take, and you can find merch there.
Speaker CI will say this.
Speaker CSome of our merch is hidden under the explicit.
Speaker CI'm not sure why.
Speaker BOh, for real.
Speaker CCould it be because of buttholes?
Speaker ADo you think AI figured out my drawing?
Speaker CI think so.
Speaker AIt's like this is just buttholes.
Speaker CThese are three buttholes.
Speaker AThose are anuses.
Speaker AWe cannot put this on the front page.
Speaker AThat's a.
Speaker AThat's an anus.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd in case you haven't figured out, our logo is three.
Speaker CThree starry.
Speaker CThree starry eyed buttholes.
Speaker CTalking about Star Wars.
Speaker BAnd if you enjoyed this podcast, you can share us with a friend.
Speaker BWe'd be really appreciative of that.
Speaker CEspecially if you don't like.
Speaker AIf you could write us a letter and tell us why you liked it.
Speaker CYeah, we're, we're, you know, we're all Gen Xers.
Speaker CWe need a lot of positive reinforcement and validation.
Speaker BGM Jim and I started trying to list all of our name, all of our listeners the other day because we typically only get about 25 to 30 listens per episode, so.
Speaker BAnd then they go up after they've been out for a little while.
Speaker BSo what I just said out loud was that we should.
Speaker BYou should really share us with your friends.
Speaker CYeah, give us a share.
Speaker BWe probably know basically 95.
Speaker CThere's some folks out there who are like, huh, this is good.
Speaker CAnd we appreciate you guys.
Speaker AAnd we don't get it, but thank
Speaker Cyou, thank you, thank you.
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