Time in 'Widow's Bay'; Plus, a Preview of 'Cape Fear'
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Time in 'Widow's Bay'; Plus, a Preview of 'Cape Fear'

This week, Blaine gives an overview and welcome to begin (0:02). Adam then joins the show with news of his tour with Luna (0:47). After that, they discuss the remake of 'Cape Fear' as a preview in non-spoilers and what it says about remakes in general (1:47). From there, it's a short, non-spoiler discussion on the eighth episode of 'Widow's Bay' (5:15) before Adam uses both 'Widow's Bay' and 'Hacks' to compare how 'Euphoria' got so bad (7:37).

After the break, the two hosts discuss 'Widow's Bay' in depth and with spoilers (11:14).

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[00:00:00] Hey, welcome to Taking It Down. It's the TV podcast from the Alabama Take. On this week's episode, we're going to discuss two shows from Apple TV. Cape Fear, which debuted on the service this weekend. To conclude, we'll talk about episode eight of the popular Widow's Bay. And Widow's Bay will be the only of the two shows we'll bring up in spoilers. So stick around for all of it if you've seen episode eight of Widow's Bay.

[00:00:27] Or just stick around for non-spoilers and come back when you've caught up. Let's get into it. No Donovan this week. We'll get Adam here though. I'll take projection.

[00:00:46] Yes, here with me, it's Adam. Adam. No Donovan this week. He had prior obligations. Adam's fresh off of booking dates with his duo Sister Rae Davies. And they'll be opening for Luna in late September and October. And I encourage our listeners to go see Luna's website, grab some tickets before they're gone. I imagine they'll go quickly. Pretty wild.

[00:01:13] It is wild. It is wild and good for you. You know, we advertised your, I say advertise, we talked about your shows over in the UK when you were off the podcast playing shows there. So we encourage listeners to go see us when we're out and about. And I think that's really cool. I'm a big fan of Luna since 05 or so. I'm a huge Luna and Dean Wareham fan. So this is very cool for us.

[00:01:38] Yes, I like his solo work. I got a couple of those records. Good stuff. Go see Adam. You can see him in person. You can say hi to him. But for TV, that's why we're here. This week, Apple TV released its first two episodes of their version of the classic Cape Fear. I'm going to keep this in non-spoilers only. And maybe next week we can unpack more.

[00:01:59] It's been made into two movies of the same name. One in 1962, the other in 1991. This one 30 years later, kind of 30 year streaks. Both of those based off the novel The Executioners. This remake from Apple TV stars Javier Bardem, Amy Adams, and Patrick Wilson. With the same basic premise, man fresh out of jail. And I won't say more in case you've never seen any of them and you want to dive into this new one blindly.

[00:02:27] I think a perfect non-spoiler question or two is that did you see anything here that warranted a new version? Well, I haven't seen it. So. Are you familiar with the older works or the more at all? No, and you made me feel better when you said it's been since the early 90s. Since one of these has come out. Because I thought it may have been something that had been remade more times. Because it is one of those titles that just kind of looms in the social consciousness. You know what I mean? It's part of the culture. Yeah.

[00:02:57] Well, the last one was Scorsese and had Robert De Niro and Nick Nolte, Jessica Lange, and Juliette Lewis in a pretty star making role for her. I haven't seen it. You're calling out my blind spots here. Scorsese is not a blind spot for you though in general. No. I figured you might have seen it. I know. That makes it even worse. Your blind spot and your bright spot is always embarrassing. You know what I mean? It can't be.

[00:03:27] I was just, I kept racking my brain over what's the point of redoing this one again. This is a broader question and it varies story to story, genre to genre. But 35 years. Did you say 91? 62 and then 91, so about 30 in between each. I think that's fair game for a... I think it's so too. But it's wild to think that that Cape Fear from 91, it was from 91. It feels like it was from like 01. Oh, okay.

[00:03:57] To me. But still, I mean a whole new generation of acting talent to work with. New cinematography approaches, new everything. Why not give it a go? Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, I've seen those first two and that first one, as Dr. Phil Beidler said about the Rolling Stones, is a motherfucker. I say, watch it. It's eye-opening.

[00:04:25] The second one, the pace is a little slower. They try a couple of things, maybe one time too many. I still liked it. I still kind of like where it's going. I'm just baffled by remakes often. Sometimes I see why, sometimes I don't. I mean, that first one had Robert Mitchell and Gregory Peck in it and is noted as being close to perfect. But then Scorsese did it. And that one is not perfect, but it's good.

[00:04:55] I mean, Robert De Niro is putting on a show. That was before he kind of got bogged down into mediocre roles. So, interesting stuff. Cape Fear. I would, uh, I'd like to cover it. We'll see how we do with our other things. The other show we're talking about, which we will talk about in spoilers, is the eighth episode of Widow's Bay. It's also an Apple TV show. Comedy horror series with Matthew Rees as the mayor of a New England island town that has some scaries.

[00:05:24] Before I talk about the eighth episode in depth, or with no spoilers, I should say. I wanted to hear your estimation on just how close this island is to Ludlow College. Is the finale just going to be Rooster stopping by on his way to pick up things from Florida? It's further south, right? If that little, I'm thinking of the kind of dismissive he's trying to get out of conversation thing that he did. Well, I'm just kind of like shaking his head and backing away.

[00:05:53] Him just doing that through an entirety of them trying to present what's going on. He's like, nope, nope, nope. Through the boogie man stories. Yeah. I could see him doing that. Yeah. Nah, nope, nope. And then getting on the bike and up, up, up, up, up, up, up. Yeah, he could be the final antagonist. We don't know. Tell me your overall feeling of the real eighth episode. Listeners, regular listeners will know last week that we binged to catch up.

[00:06:22] That's right, you did. What a rewarding show to inhale. And we were glad to wait. Happy when it arrived. But, man, 30 minutes, it just doesn't feel like enough. And it's not an issue that I have with the episode or the show. It's just this was one of the shorter entries so far. Pretty short. It only by like maybe a couple, four minutes, something like that.

[00:06:51] But I do think you felt that a little bit when compared to the others. And that would be my only gripe. But the gripe is not enough of a good thing. You know what I mean? And so it's not a real gripe. Yeah. And I thought it was a fantastic episode. I thought it faced some issues without lingering too long on anyone and was gripping, definitely gripping from start to finish. I thought it was well directed, too. I noted that. Something I don't usually pay attention to.

[00:07:20] But I thought that this one had great direction. I'll say broadly, too, something that I texted you and Donovan about. That we, in our house, binged all of Widow's Bay up until this most recent episode. We finished Hacks, which I am here to report landed the plane beautifully. Right. It was up in the air last week, so to speak.

[00:07:46] Just as well as any show has with respect to its overall run. I thought it was so good. That's good news. I am willing to debate this with anyone who maybe has other feelings. If something catches up, maybe next week, that's something you guys can bring up for sure. But any listener who thinks that they didn't, I would be interested to hear their take as well. Is it a finale that people would be divided on? I could see people having a gripe with it. For sure.

[00:08:14] It was a show that didn't always front the big questions, the big issues. But it becomes very, you know, we always jokingly call things serious literature with a capital S and a capital L. Last episode suddenly became like serious literature while staying true to itself. So it was, I try not to say too much and give it away, but it was very good.

[00:08:40] All of that to say, watching Widow's Bay, watching Hacks, and then going and revisiting the last few Euphoria's, you just realize how good. You were talking about how good the directing was on this most recent Widow's Bay. How good the writing and directing on Hacks and Widow's Bay are in comparison to something like Euphoria.

[00:09:02] Just to reinforce that we are really living through a golden age if we pick the right spots here in television. And the Widow's Bay is, you know, you can think, oh, this is a monster of the week kind of show. But I think, and even I'm sure we'll get into it with this one, they're doing so much more with character development, storytelling, saying things about family, friends, all of this stuff that is working on a deep level.

[00:09:32] That I think you could take for granted how good it is. And I think I do. In fact, I don't know if I said this last week, but I thought it. I realized how good the show was when I started itching for it around Monday, Tuesday. Mm-hmm. And I realized, yeah, it's not out yet. It doesn't come out here until Wednesday. Let me tell you, I thought it came out on Tuesday.

[00:09:58] And my week really got busy both day and night starting Wednesday. Oh, yeah. That was waking up and checking on Tuesday. That wasn't fun. And it may drop around three in the morning on Tuesday or something, like something weird. Because I've seen it said that it airs on Tuesday, but it doesn't. Not for me. Not in those hours. Yeah. Speaking of hours, speaking of less than an hour, how about 30 seconds? We'll take a 30-second break.

[00:10:26] And on the other side, we'll talk about this episode in depth. So if you've seen it, you can stick around. Please do. Or if you haven't, just come back. Many interviews can ramble. Or maybe the host asks the same questions you've all heard answered. Not with short takes. Not only does short takes have the guests you want to know more about, but also the summer series manages to go in depth with just four questions.

[00:10:56] Back again this summer, short takes will air new episodes each Friday on the YouTube channel for The Alabama Take. Click the link in the show notes to subscribe to the YouTube channel, and you'll know exactly when each episode of short takes premieres. Okay, let's get back into things with spoilers. Spoilers, which means we're going to talk about your baggage. That's the title of episode eight of Widow's Bay. Scared me there for a second. Why is that?

[00:11:25] We're going to talk about your baggage. Yeah. In public? Oh, God. Here we go. Let's unpack this. We're just talking about Widow's Bay. Not anyone else's baggage, just your baggage from Widow's Bay. Once more, the past is back. In your baggage, though.

[00:11:42] It starts with, and even lingers throughout the episode, so many of them, I guess our three main characters now, who've developed into the main characters, are trying to put their past away. Especially through some pictures, which I found interesting. Wick brings his folded up photograph to his old high school sweetheart, Jerry, and he's interrupted by her husband. And Tom and Evan look at photos of Tom's deceased wife as they get to the truth.

[00:12:12] And they're even interrupted by Wick later. And then there's Patricia. And she has a quick glance through a yearbook, but her van alarm goes off because the boogeyman is back. So I thought that was an interesting motif of using pictures to try to settle the past and move on from it. But this is another, this is only kind of related to that, but, you know, we talked about the world building of this island. Yeah.

[00:12:41] The convenient, like, there's no cell phone coverage, so no one has a cell phone. Yeah. There's no cell phone, so there's still, now a lot of these physical pictures make sense because they're of an age to have existed. Right, too old. Yeah. You know, I mean, Tom's wife, presumably, it wasn't that long ago that he would have had a 16, 17-year-old son in terms of technology. So to have, like, a physical box of pictures feels like a rare thing.

[00:13:11] Yeah, it does. Gives the show a timeless quality as well. That's true, yeah. Yeah, I think it helps, too. That timeless quality. And then the episode also combines the future. Got Tom and Evan planning a Boston trip. Wick seems to want more or less of a future with Jerry. I'm not sure what he was exactly going to say. And then the sheriff admits his wife is pregnant.

[00:13:38] That's definitely the future. There's nothing more than the future, capital T and capital F, than we're about to have a baby. So it's a fascinating look at the past and where we're going to go from there. Let's jump off from that and go somewhere. Do you think that Tom was too easily forgiven or was it that he kind of sort of wasn't lying? He was only half lying. Meaning his son forgave him?

[00:14:07] With his son forgiving him and what happened to his wife, that she didn't die in childbirth, but every sense of who she was was gone after it. I mean, I think we've seen moments where his son is a good kid, right? This episode definitely, and here and there, yeah. I mean, he misbehaves. With his friends, he seems like an okay cat. Yeah. I mean, he's yelled at Tom and you have like the, as Donovan pointed out a few episodes,

[00:14:36] the just normal teenage stuff. Yeah. But also running up against, yeah, running up against like your dad isn't being inflexible because he's being an authoritarian. He's inflexible because he's trying to keep you alive. Mm-hmm. Even little moments like when the, when he runs into the sheriff and he, you know, kind of has that understanding conversation and that funny exchange.

[00:15:03] Anyway, he seems like an emotionally intelligent enough kid to understand that there were things that up until this point in his life, a dad would not have told him. Yeah. Possibly even mature enough to understand I would have done the same thing. And maybe there's a comprehension that he was going to tell me this. Yeah. It's just not been the right time. Well, and the, you know, here's the baseball tickets. We're going to Boston this weekend. Probably helped.

[00:15:32] I don't, and I don't mean that in like a, here's a carrot on a stick, kind of like a gift to when you overweight, like this marks the beginning of a new chapter of a thing that you didn't even intellectually know, but could clearly feel. Why am I locked on this island? There must be a reason. I don't just think it's because we never go anywhere because of whatever reason. Tom really believes that the curse has been lifted.

[00:16:01] So he's behaving as if a curse has been lifted. He's portraying that it's falling off of him, right? That energy is there and his son can probably feel that. Yeah, that's a good point. He's more joyous. And yeah, maybe that's contagious. I think so. And I'm interested to see how forthcoming he's going to be with him about, you know, we see these characters beginning to discuss, you know, Patricia at the hospital with the sheriff. She says, you have to leave.

[00:16:30] You have to leave right now. They're closer than ever to discussing it outside of these circles that have been established that are talking about all of this supernatural stuff. Wick going at the end and saying, it's not over. Evan's sitting in the other room, right? He's probably about to get roped into this whole... That's a good point. Let's hope so because I think he'll be an interesting addition.

[00:16:56] Well, especially because he's very likely directly descended from the guy that they just turned to dust, right? He could be. That's the big theory. I didn't realize that, but it makes a lot of sense. Well, I think you also just run into what we talked about last week. If you leave people isolated on an island for long enough, eventually isn't everybody probably descended from... Yeah, it's adamant that you kind of tell there.

[00:17:25] It does make sense that we haven't seen the sheriff's wife yet. They held on to that so that they could reveal she's pregnant. That's been hinted at, though. All her requests from... The ice cream. Yeah. I think that was funny in hindsight. Yeah. I hadn't thought of that. Those were good little Easter eggs. I also had a moment. We're going to get to what was both a frightening but then hilarious montage of Patricia going

[00:17:54] with the body that is present at the end. But when you think that she's unwilling to believe that this thing has been destroyed and then she sees a pregnant woman who she didn't know was pregnant. I had this moment of like, wait, was she pregnant the other day? Did she just... I guess some reality slip happened and now this evil entity is about to... You know what I mean? Is there some cyclical thing going on here? Yeah. Which I don't... That's not it.

[00:18:23] But I did have a brief second. No, I don't think so. I think that she's been pregnant the whole time. And... But the show is asking you to think about how many generations have faced the same decision and just not broken the cycle, right? Like we talked last week about how the first time that you see that subterranean area, it is more modern.

[00:18:49] And then when you see it in that flashback episode, it's in its initial stages. So just to drive home that like these things, these patterns keep reinforcing themselves. Yeah. Like you said, a cycle. Mm-hmm. And one of the cycles that hasn't been broken is that of women not being believed, it seems. That's like a part of this story. I know this was kind of pointed out in the...

[00:19:18] In Jen Cheney's Vulture recap this week, how once again, it's... When it comes to Patricia and the boogeyman, it's a lot of believe the woman who's been assaulted, attacked. And here she says that the boogeyman being kind of a slow, dumb attacker is symbolic of even slow, dumb men get away with things. Mm-hmm. Because they're men.

[00:19:46] I thought that was a really good take on it. And that's just one of the cycles that seems to be repeating on the island and elsewhere. Yeah. Absolutely. And even her biggest antagonists are her peer group, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That infects so completely the idea of doubting her. Because there is an element of just like mean girl. Oh, yeah. Kind of thing. But are they also saying something else? I don't know. That's an interesting read.

[00:20:15] It is an interesting read. And I don't think it's a good read. Yeah. A valid read, I guess we would call it, in the arts. Patricia and the sheriff have to be tired of seeing one another. They have to be at the point where they're thinking, every time I see you, it's something. I think a big picture laugh that the show could provide is if you just charted Patricia's week. I know. You know, because we laughed about that last week.

[00:20:45] Like when she steals the car and they're talking, he's like, you can't go. I have to take you in for a statement about all those people you almost drowned last night. Like, what were you doing? And now this is the next day, right? That she gets into this. When, how are they awake right now? I've had a long few days and I am, I'm exhausted. So I don't know how they're doing it. It's possible. You would be running on fumes.

[00:21:10] Well, with Tom, he slept. He did. You know, that was one of the big revelations of this episode was, I've been asleep for a certain amount of time, passed out from the high of the mushroom, right? It just crashes you out sometimes. Of course, there's adrenaline flowing through the rest of them too, so. Yeah. Wick does come to the door, says it's not over. So it's not so much Richard Warren, it's just the island itself, right?

[00:21:40] Isn't that what we're supposed to think now? Like, getting rid of Richard Warren, he was only a pawn for the island. That's what he was arguing, right? It's like, I had to do this to satiate this evil or this whatever presence that's here. So maybe their confidence was ill-founded last week and at the beginning of this episode. But, I mean, that's the thing with, I suppose you can do it in a movie too, if you look down at your watch and you're like, well, it's been an hour and ten minutes,

[00:22:09] I don't think they've really solved this problem. You know, like, they didn't solve the problem in episode seven, but they did need that false victory, I think. And it does feel like a show where the monster of the week thing is like a surface level representation of what's going on, that they're going to have to confront something bigger. Yeah. I mean, they already have in a lot of ways because you, all along you're thinking this show is leading, say, like, Tom and his son

[00:22:37] to have to have serious conversations. That's coming as a part of the circumstances of all of this. And I think that the monster, whatever it turns out to be, will also be a similar kind of overarching thing. Mm-hmm. There's still the painting with the kid drowning, seemingly drowning, who might have jumped off the boat from... Not addressed this week. It's not addressed. That's right.

[00:23:05] They're going to leave that to your memory or to the recap when the show begins. I'll bring it up, I'm sure, or show you it one more time. Well, I mean, that seemed like the crucial element coming out of last week. It did. Right. That we're going to keep tracking the lineage here, and that that's going to play a large role. Yeah. And it was probably a child from when Betty Gilpin's character got to escape. They put the kids on the boat there with her. It's got to be one of those. Yeah.

[00:23:35] Just to touch on Steven Root, I thought that he did sadness really realistically. For a guy, it's quick, it's sudden, and it's understood, and pushed down, pushed away. He still has a thing for Jerry. And he's someone to pity now that he didn't get to tell her what happened in the past. And I don't know where he was going to go with it. I don't know if he was going to say, this is what happened, let you and I become more than friends,

[00:24:04] or this is what happened, goodbye for forever or whatever. It seemed to me like he just wanted to come clean. Yeah, just wanted to say, Some closure. This is what happened to your brother and I feel horrible. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But the husband, those are two, the versions of two people that are still very much in their older persons, you know, but like they were almost like teenagers again when they're talking. And that,

[00:24:33] that version of her, it's not long gone, but, you know, the husband comes back and it's like, oh, no, this is, this is reality, you know? Mm-hmm. That was a funny bit that you mentioned where Patricia maintaining a gun to the boogeyman's head until she sees that he's cremated. But what made it so funny is that she's, she plays it as, O'Flynn plays it with a polite soft-spokenness. Like, are you,

[00:25:03] are you sure he's dead? Thank you. Yeah. But yet she's holding a shotgun. Is there another way out? I mean, when they flashed to her in the ambulance, though, you know, you start going through and you're like, this is silly. But, I mean, the sheriff, the guy who should tell her, you can't walk around with a shotgun. Yeah, he's in. Is hurt. And the medics probably don't care because one of their own had their throat slashed a half hour ago. Yeah. I, I gassed when the sheriff got cut. I,

[00:25:33] I thought, whoa. You know, I, when they started walking towards the gas station and he's in there, I thought, oh, he's only a few days from retirement or, you know, leaving the island. But, but the classic, like, she had another great moment. She had a lot of great ones in this one, but her tasering the, the beachy book club. That's great. And she yelled, she's the fucking worst. I mean, she is. She knows what they were reading.

[00:26:02] The Night Always Comes, that Willie Vloughton. Did you read that? No, I didn't. Novel? Say more about that. I read it and I'm going to be honest, I had to make sure that I had the right thing. I'll read you the, it only came out in 2021. So, certainly a choice to put it in here. Yeah. The Night Always Comes is a 2021 novel by Willie Vloughton about Lynette, a young woman in Portland trying to buy the house she rents with her mother and brother, but her plans are derailed when her mother spends the down payment,

[00:26:32] forcing Lynette on a desperate two-day odyssey through a gentrifying city to find the money, confronting hustlers and her own past in a search for security. And you read that? I did. I think a buddy gave it to me and he had a copy too. We kind of read it together. Was it good? It's been a, yeah, yeah. Hmm. So, what do you think that points to? I don't, I don't know. I just thought it was a strange for who these women have shown themselves to be. Yeah. You know,

[00:27:01] and they're like probably really just there to drink the wine. Right. And hang out, which, great, you know. I'm thinking it's an intense book. Yeah. It's just an odd choice in that scenario. Yeah. I'll jump back to Jen Chaney's vulture recap. One thing she pointed out is funny, which is amazing because I found it scary. And this is another moment of great direction I thought it was.

[00:27:31] The camera was stationary and Patricia runs off a porch because she can't find help there. and it stays put and you know the boogeyman's coming and I just kept thinking he would just pass by normally like along the street but he passes by right in front of the camera. Chaney calls this funny and I thought it was horrifying. He's like, geez, he's that close. There were some funny camera gags and just her running and you think about like that. There's like

[00:28:00] theoreticals that come out like there's a snail that's always chasing you and you'll die if it catches up to you and it's always going but you're making money so long as you can outpace it. What's your plan? It's like, well, you have a plan but the idea of a relentless pursuit like no matter what you do there's something on your heels is even when he's walking slow it's like this is terrifying. Yeah. And you're on an island.

[00:28:30] You're like hyper aware that there is a limit. You know, they say can you establish a perimeter? This is an early on joke. It's like, well, it's an island so yes, we do have a perimeter set up. There's only so far she can go. Even the the window thing was scary but also kind of hilarious. It's kind of funny. Because they don't show him go through or they pan away in some way and all of a sudden he just is flying out the window. Yeah.

[00:28:59] But also interesting that he was in this house full of people Yes. And is not interested in them. We assume. Patricia's the leftover for it. Yeah. Yeah, which makes it scary as well. I'm a sucker for slasher kind of things where they have the guy in the room and nobody knows it but maybe one person and you know you could see it upstairs and everybody's down I'm a sucker for that kind of thing. It's kind of creepy as hell. That's what I've got on episode eight. What about you?

[00:29:29] Anything we didn't touch on? You know, I was surprised that they didn't revisit the painting and that they kind of put the overarching thing on pause. How many episodes are we dealing with this season? In total. We've got two more. See, I'm surprised. I would have thought episode eight would have gone a little bit more into the overall mythos and how that's going to wrap up and it did pivot back to a monster of the week kind of thing. A little bit. Well, yeah. Not a little bit but yes. One that they'd been

[00:29:58] building up all along. Yes, that's true. It had a little bit of a through line and I even predicted that it would be wrongly predicted that it would be the last thing they'd have to deal with but it wasn't. No, I think they've got to go back to the whatever's happening in that the chair underground with the portal right there. And the painting and is that painting symbolic of Evan having to jump off? Like you think that's coming? Yeah. It's foreshadowing Evan that's going

[00:30:27] to have to jump off to survive trying to leave the island. I mean, do you think they're going to try to that is an interesting stake to put like we're trying to go to Boston to this Red Sox game at the end of the week and but once once Wick comes back and he tells him it's not over Tom early on Tom try to leave will he? Right, surely. Early on Tom would have been dismissive of that possibly. Yeah. Well no, he wouldn't have been because he wouldn't

[00:30:57] have tried to take Evan because he believed in all the stuff all along. Yeah, he he definitely would have even if he didn't believe it he wasn't going to chance his son I think is probably the way to think about it. Yeah. So it's but it is setting up like a you have to wonder how his son is going to react to suddenly discovering all of this stuff that we have now had eight episodes to acclimate to. That's true. As has his dad is he going to join the

[00:31:26] the fight and be an important part of it in some way? I really hope so. I think he's a pretty well played character. And I think there's some like Reddit really loves Rosemary the funny City Hall employee. The is that the oldest yes lady at the City Hall who doesn't leave or excuse me doesn't stay past three or whatever. Not her the other one that suggests that Patricia takes off her hat. Played by

[00:31:56] Dale Dickey I think the actress's name is. Yes. Yeah. Yeah she's got to have a little bit more going on. She knows what's happening I think. And I'm interested to see if some characters like that come in and say you know let's deal with this once and for all I know this. There's a lot of puzzle pieces still together from around the island. Right. Which and I talked about the world building of the island every time that we've discussed this I'll do it again.

[00:32:26] Patricia running for as long as she ran through these different neighborhoods and it's like how big is this island? It's as big as they need it to be per episode which I love. Yeah. You bringing up Rosemary reminds me to ask you this last question. When Patricia gets her food home and it's the wrong order did it hate you that it was Kathy who had done her order? It had to be right? I think

[00:32:55] that's like a tucked in joke there that she it was her that put the order together it's why it's not done correctly. Yeah and everything's just a little and of course it would happen to Patricia. Right there's that. I tried to watch this episode and got interrupted and then got super busy through the end of the week but had seen just that scene and then went back and just started from the beginning so I saw that scene twice and both times when she calls because I hate complaining in

[00:33:24] like customer service but sometimes when I mentally go through it I think what she is trying to say on that answering machine message I don't want anybody to get in trouble I just want them to know so that maybe they can do a better job in the future but you don't have to replace my food it's okay I just want you to know. that is me on those phone calls. Deeply relatable. Yeah I thought that was funny too and I felt it. Well that's it for us this week I

[00:33:54] think. Next week more Widow's Bay maybe Cape Fear maybe Little Hacks. We'll see. It's quite possible. Follow us on social media albeit I'm not crazy about it but we at least try to give you a heads up on what we'll be covering so you can play along at home. that's going to be it for us for I'm always appreciative of Adam and Donovan's time when Donovan's here too but for Adam and Donovan I'm Blaine and y'all remember to have a taser and

[00:34:24] some petrol handy if ever you need. Have a nice week.