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In the spoiler section, it's an unpacking of heartfelt themes of family and work showcased in the latest episode of 'TrueSouth,' which features a poignant look at coal mining and its impact on families, particularly focusing on Caleb Johnson and his father, Ronnie (7:11) Additionally in the detailed part of the podcast, Blaine discusses the newly released documentary 'Road Diary,' which chronicles Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band's life and the emotional weight of aging, loss, and bonds (17:28).
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It does at Taking it down, which would be the TV podcast for
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Here we are.
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Non spoiler section.
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It's just me this week, Just your host, Blaine.
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I'm not going to get into why that's the case.
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You know, it's another week where if you have time, you have
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options.
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We'll cover.
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I'll cover one.
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Why don't I say we.
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It's just me so used to the other two guys being here.
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I'll cover a few.
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But some things I won't get to are what we did in the Shadows which
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is returned on FX and Hulu final season.
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Sadly, it's a good show if you haven't watched it.
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They are 2535 minute episodes at the most and about vampires living
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in a fictional documentary about vampires living in Long Island.
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It's just very funny and interesting.
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It's good.
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I could also say some things about Agatha all along that could
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produce conversations with me.
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With others.
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It's on Disney plus.
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I think it's gotten a little better these last two episodes.
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In fact, this last episode did some things that I found quite intriguing
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and worth the 25 minutes I think it ran.
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It was a very short episode, the most recent, but that's on Disney
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plus as well.
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Maybe we could cover this new thriller that's on Apple tv.
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Plus it's called before.
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That's the name of it.
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It they cast Billy Crystal as a child psychologist and apparently
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some odd things are happening to or around him with a.
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With a client, with a patient.
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If you're a fan of this podcast or you want to be a fan of
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this podcast, you should message us and guide us in a direction.
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It's kind of hard since there's three of us to rope us all
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in on something, but we could listen, we could have a conversation.
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I'd be amiss if I didn't bring up this week's episode of True South.
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That's a show on the SEC network because first of all it's
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Southern based TV program, but more importantly, it's the most recent
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episode featured about one of our site's originators, one of our
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friends Caleb Johnson, as well as his dad, his home, and another
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close friend of the podcasting website, Lee Banes iii.
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True south documents food and culture across the southeastern United
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States.
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It kind of sounds cool to me, but I had never watched this.
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It's hosted by the James Beard Award winning John T.
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Edge.
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He hosts and writes a lot of the episodes and it's also produced
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by author Wright Thompson, whom a lot of you may know from ESPN
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or maybe even just his writing, which has been on ESPN and
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various other sites.
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He has a book out now too, a brand new book about the Emmett Till
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murder and it looks very well done.
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I don't think that this is the kind of show you can even spoil,
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but just in case I will, you know, continue to do our thing where
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I won't talk about anything specific about any of these programs
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and movies just in case anyone's holding off on watching
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it or whatever.
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I'll be general I'll leave room for specifics in the spoiler
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section.
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I enjoyed this episode.
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It offers an insight to not just the south, but what it would
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be like to live in a home and town where a particular breed of
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person is disappearing due to the culture, due to the economic
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culture.
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The focal point of True south this episode was in Jasper.
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Loosely.
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Arley would be the specifics of where it is.
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Truly enjoyable.
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A moving one, I would say.
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Bruce Springsteen, the E Street Band, Tom Zimney and the rest
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of their crew released a new documentary this weekend.
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It's on Springsteen, the Street Band and their preparation
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as well as tour that comes after the tour preparation.
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It's on Disney plus and Hulu.
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I think it's intended for Hulu.
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They kind of cross over now.
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It's.
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It's an odd thing, isn't it?
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Zimney's the same director that Bruce has worked with for his
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documentary on the Promise and then filming his Broadway run for
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Netflix.
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I think it was the same director he worked with for the thing
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he did for Apple tv.
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Plus for Letter for you.
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That most recent E Street album with a documentary.
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Here is about the tour, though, especially when they all
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pick up the pieces after Covid and they hit the road.
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You wonder where musical documentaries land in terms of do
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I have to see it?
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You know, if you're a fan, you want to, but is there, is there anything
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that's being added to what I already know?
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This one does.
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It brings a little something new because it addresses where he
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is in this moment in time.
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And I think it's worth watching if you're a fan.
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If you're not a fan of Spring Scene, you're not going to watch
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it.
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Right?
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But there's a thematic element that goes hand in hand with what
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we were talking about with True south earlier.
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Let's pause here just in case you don't want to be spoiled on either
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of those two things.
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If you don't want to hear the specifics of either of those two
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things beyond what I've said already, here's the spoiler section
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coming up.
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Just be warned, this is where you can pause, come back later, or
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skip to the one you've seen.
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So, yeah, let's discuss some particulars of each of these pieces
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of television.
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Be warned, you're now in spoiler territory.
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I'll just go in the order that I brought them up.
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You know, I really didn't know much about the series True south
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until Caleb messaged me this summer that he and his dad were going
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to be a part of their fifth episode.
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I think it's the fifth episode.
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It's their seventh season of the show, and I think their seasons
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have varied.
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Sometimes I'll have five episodes, sometimes six or seven.
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It's just not my tendency to watch shows on sports networks that
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aren't the sport or highlights, you know, something like
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that.
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It's not like it would be on my radar.
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It's not the kind of thing I would gravitate toward because I
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took it to Be a show about food.
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More so.
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And I can't explain this very eloquently, but I have always thought
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shows about food to be kind of weird.
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I've always thought pictures on Instagram about of food, unless
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you're a restaurant to be weird.
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Like, I know what food looks like.
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I don't understand that.
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It's just me.
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It's not you, it's me.
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Teresa.
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A lot more about that.
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A lot more about things than food.
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It's about the culture and stories of the south.
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And the title kind of gets it right.
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It's one of the few entries into quote unquote, south productions
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that gets it right.
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That shows you exactly what it is.
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And a lot of people, if you're watching this up north or in Canada
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or England, you're going to recognize it.
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You're going to say, no, that's just humanity.
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Yeah, that's what it's like down here in the South.
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I think the series shares a playlist of every episode on Spotify,
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if that interests any of you.
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But this one uses Jasper as its focal points.
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And there's something to Jasper, I'll admit.
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I had spent a lot of time there, way more than usual these
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past couple of months though I'm not unaware of the town.
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My dad was actually born there.
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He had friends there.
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It was not very far away from where I grew up.
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Uses Jasper, but Caleb's from Arley, that's north of Jasper.
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Small town.
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One of the few towns I can say is smaller than where I'm from.
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The other focus of it is Fathers and Sons.
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That one runs deep.
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It was a deep, profound episode for me personally, and it
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might be for you.
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It ropes in coal mining, of course.
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Food.
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I don't know if any of you all have any familiarity with coal mining,
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especially the way that they used to do it.
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Not strip mining like you might see from time to time.
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Especially if you're anywhere in the south.
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Well, let's just say Pennsylvania, Eastern United States
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through the South.
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Right.
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If you got familiarity with it, it might just be with that strip
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mining you see, that just creates ugly landscapes, sad looking
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landscapes, honestly.
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But yeah, My grandfather lived in Jasper many years.
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It's where my dad was born.
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Because my grandfather worked in a coal mine and I recall my grandfather
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sleeping on about four or five pillows, very thin kind of pillows,
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but they were four or five stacked to combat black lung.
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He was told to do that and he did it.
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He even got black lung benefits.
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I can remember that.
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I don't know how I knew that.
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But I knew it.
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I heard it said, obviously, Caleb Johnson is really what I want
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to talk about.
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In the episode, he and his dad, Ronnie, have conversations there
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with John T.
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Edge.
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It's a new world.
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When Ronnie talks about going into the mines, we're talking 2ft
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deep.
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And he talks about how he was never scared in there.
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I can't fathom that I would be so claustrophobic.
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I wouldn't be able to return after the first night of doing it.
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If you got me down there at all, I don't think you get me down
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there.
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But there's such a huge component of this conversation that
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this is what you do for your family, to live and to eat.
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Plus coal mining in that manner that Ronnie did, it's something
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like from the 1700s.
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It's a relic as scary, as haunting as any ghosts, and it haunts
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the area.
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I think you feel it there.
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I love the contextualization that Caleb brings on how, as kids,
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you don't.
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You don't understand or even know what your parents do at work
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or care in many cases.
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And you don't understand or know what your parents do for fun.
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Who are they?
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What do they do for you?
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I do not understand that if I'm 9 or 10 years old or 11 or 12,
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I just didn't understand it.
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I knew they worked, and I knew that work wasn't great or it was
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not something that they wanted to do necessarily all the time, but
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that's it.
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That was the extent I didn't understand that they were doing these
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things for me as much as they were doing it, you know, to put food
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in their own mouths.
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There's this scene where Caleb and Ronnie talk about how Ronnie
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would unpack his leftovers.
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The next morning, Caleb would be getting ready to go to school
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and he would have extra food.
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It's an insightful moment to how scary this sort of job was or
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could be.
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It's exquisite choice, too, to have Lee Bangs on there.
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Lee Bangs III makes tremendously great music, and it's
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not just because he's Caleb's confidant and obvious choice to be
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on the show, but Lee centers his art on the working man.
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I've joked here that this is the TV podcast for the Working man.
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And I wish I could make that, you know, true or more so.
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It's.
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I said it in passing as a joke in one episode, but Lee does it with.
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With dignity.
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Any frames working like Ronnie would do in the light that everyone
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needs to see, which is why there may be a Familiarity to people
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from outside of the south watching this, as far as I relate
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to that person, you know, I have a father who went to work and
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it was not great.
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But if you've never thought about work in terms of there are
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men and women who work hard ass jobs to get you your lights on
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when you get home, when you flip that switch and you just have
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this guarantee it's going to work and you know, you don't doubt
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it, you just flip the switch.
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You don't think about it.
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There are men and women behind that.
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Someone built that chair that's holding you off the dirt ground.
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Maybe you did, but many other cases, someone built that.
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And that's what this show, this episode spotlights so well.
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And we saw it in Covid.
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I think we recognized this during the pandemic, but how soon
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we've forgotten.
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And even then we were.
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We saw it, we recognized it, but we weren't doing anything about
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our recognition.
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It ain't the politicians or the billionaires keeping us going.
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When the shit hits the fan, when you go inside your house and
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you flip that switch on the lights, right, that ain't a politician.
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That's not Elon Musk that's doing that shit.
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That's the Ronnie Johnson's of the world.
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And I don't want to stretch this too thin, but there are connections
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in this episode to religion and work.
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Maybe it's kind of a.
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It's a little bit of a subtext that, that politicians who don't
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need the religion anywhere near as much as.
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As much, you know, they take advantage of that kind of shit daily
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on like a.
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A person who's.
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Who's working and needs mental and spiritual support, emotional
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support beyond friendships and beyond guarantees of money because
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they're going 2ft deep into the mind.
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Now that's not explicit.
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I just kind of.
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I kind of went with that myself.
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When Elise song God's a Working man was played live on the
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show, he played it acoustic and what a nice take on the song.
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Powerful stuff.
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Touching episode.
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Overall, that may be the case for all of them.
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Seeing a recognition of what fathers and parents in general do
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for families from the kids, like seeing the recognition from
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Caleb, which he's had, you know, I'm not saying that this was
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the moment that he had this recognition.
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I'm sure the recognition is what brought him to agree to do the
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episode right.
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But just seeing that is just profound and it's a lasting experience.
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This show gives you that in 25 minutes or less.
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I would love to See more if not all of the footage of Ronnie
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recounting tales from the coal mines and life around Arley.
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They go to the local it's convenience store basically, but
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they also have a kind of a built in restaurant that serves breakfast
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for people coming and going from the the mines and going to work.
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That that folds in nicely.
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They do incorporate the food there a little in True south episode
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and the episode really did maybe weep.
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There's a moment where Ronnie says all I've ever done is work and
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if you had a parent that did that and a lot of us did, it'll shake
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you a little in a good way.
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My dad worked 37 years at 3M in Ewing, Alabama and not the sexiest
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of jobs one would imagine.
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The chemicals there are probably not too inviting to the
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human body.
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And I think my dad did a stretch of work 100 straight days
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and many of those days were 12 hour shifts.
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As Caleb points out in this episode, that's what got me to have
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housing and food when I was in college at the University of Alabama.
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My grandfather would say he would always want something better
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for his kids and that's the case.
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That's the idea that many of us have heard too growing up is that
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we parents wanted the next generation to have it better.
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Good episode of Television only takes up 25 minutes of your
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time.
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Hey, shout out to Jamie Barrier in the Pine Hill Haints who
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deservedly got some Spence on this episode too.
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Speaking of music moving from one show with some solid music from
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from Lee Banes III and Fine Hill Haints and others, let's go
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to a musical documentary about life, particularly Bruce Springsteen's
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life in this large famous touring band and how that began and
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morphed into the tour they did post Covid with the movie Road Diaries.
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That movie's on Hulu primarily, but you can also watch
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it through Disney plus directed by Tom Zimney.
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If you're a Springsteen fan, you know what I talked about.
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You know what this is.
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It premiered this weekend.
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You know where does Bruce rank for you personally as an artist of
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import.
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And it's funny that's I thought that because while I'm a
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huge Dylan fan, I am a huge Dylan fan for many reasons.
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Musically, you know what his sort of this mystique to to him.
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But with Springsteen he was just kind of there.
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He was just kind of on tv.
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No mystery to that really.
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I mean he didn't expose him his whole life to the world and everything
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he did, but he kind of just counted on him being on TV on MTV
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in the 80s.
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You knew from glory days or born in the USA or even those.
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That solo album, the Tunnel of Love stuff and even into the 90s,
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the local, you know, local hero.
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He was just going to be there.
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He was on Unplugged.
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No, no, he was on Unplugged.
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He just did it electrically.
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He just.
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I don't think he agreed to the unplugged ness of it.
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Yeah, he know.
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He just.
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His life was almost felt like an open book.
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It wasn't.
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He didn't shy away from being.
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Being on.
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On TV or making videos.
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Springsteen gets into some sad losses of Danny and Clarence and
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his band.
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They've been a band for 40 years with the same people.
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If you go to work for 40 years and you love your job, you love it,
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and you really like the people because you were able to kind of
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put this job together.
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40 years, same people, and then you lose two.
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It's got to have a punch on you.
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It's got to change you.
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I did think a few times during this documentary, lord, this band's
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too big.
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Not just the E Street.
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I'm talking about the horn section.
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I'm Talking about the four backup singers.
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In the 70s 80s.
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The E Street Band didn't.
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Didn't have that.
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I don't know if they need it.
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Especially in Born to Run, the horn section playing that melody.
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I don't know.
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I get a big chuckle watching this alone.
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There's a scene later in the movie with the guitar tech, and he
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mentions all these guitars, the cameras moving through guitar
00:20:24
cases full of 20 to 30 guitars.
00:20:29
But when they started one guitar, I mean, that's it.
00:20:35
What Springsteen does with his set list performances, Eyes of the
00:20:39
E Street Band hitting some of the same marks every show, standing
00:20:43
in the same spot, doing the same little thing.
00:20:47
He relies heavily on a teleprompter these days, apparently.
00:20:52
That could all easily come off as cheesy.
00:20:55
And to me, there are bits of it that do.
00:20:59
But yet overall, hardly, somehow he.
00:21:03
He's able to do all these things, but make them emotional,
00:21:08
make them have genuine emotion behind them.
00:21:13
That's both interesting and moving.
00:21:16
And it does show the previous tour where he went into the crowd,
00:21:19
grabbed up signs with song titles in them, played those songs.
00:21:24
That's kind of my favorite sort of show.
00:21:25
Not necessarily where the artist is going into the crowd and
00:21:28
grabbing signs, but just where the set list changes every night.
00:21:32
That's probably better for a artist who, who's hitting some smaller
00:21:39
circuits or maybe just some clubs especially.
00:21:42
But Theaters even springs these playing arenas and even I guess
00:21:47
stadiums, right?
00:21:48
In this, in this documentary I showed this size that springs he's
00:21:53
doing.
00:21:54
You're probably Only catching 1, 1 performance if you're lucky.
00:21:58
So sticking to one set, that's the move, you know, you don't feel
00:22:02
let down.
00:22:03
You don't feel like you missed anything.
00:22:05
This documentary does a nice little move where it structures the
00:22:09
runtime and focuses on one song at a time as a vehicle to tell
00:22:15
the story that the documentary is about.
00:22:17
And it ends up being about if you didn't notice this earlier.
00:22:21
Age.
00:22:22
Age is the backbone of this movie.
00:22:24
If it's not apparent in the first few minutes, the man himself
00:22:26
crystallizes it in the end.
00:22:29
I am curious though.
00:22:31
I've been more acutely aware of my and everyone's mortality these
00:22:36
last several months for various reasons.
00:22:39
Is that occurring to everyone?
00:22:40
Is it just me?
00:22:42
Is that a me thing of just aging or is that a post pandemic
00:22:47
climate change world we're living in?
00:22:50
I don't know.
00:22:52
I don't know.
00:22:52
I would be interested in having that conversation with you
00:22:55
guys.
00:22:55
So talk to us.
00:22:57
No Adam, no Donovan.
00:22:59
Hey, do this, do this.
00:23:00
And I'm dead serious.
00:23:01
If you've made it this far, do this.
00:23:04
Message me, text me if you have my number or hit me up on social
00:23:09
media.
00:23:09
Do you.
00:23:10
Is this.
00:23:11
Are these solo episodes worth your time?
00:23:14
Do you like them?
00:23:15
Just me giving my thoughts, me conversing with myself.
00:23:19
It happens.
00:23:20
It happens all the time.
00:23:23
Is this okay?
00:23:24
Do you like it?
00:23:26
I'm not gonna ask if you prefer it, but if I can't get the
00:23:30
band together, is it okay if I play a acoustic song by myself?
00:23:33
That's what I'm asking you.
00:23:34
Hey, don't forget I'm going to dig into the Coiffers of the Alabama
00:23:40
take.
00:23:40
I'm kidding.
00:23:40
We have no money.
00:23:42
I'm going to give you a gift card if you'll just help me out and
00:23:46
me and Adam and Donovan out and complete a a survey.
00:23:50
It's just a Google form survey.
00:23:52
It really would take you two minutes or less.
00:23:57
I'll be posting it on social media a couple of times through the
00:24:00
taking it down social media, but it's pretty easily found on the
00:24:04
alabamatake.com.
00:24:05
i'll put it in the Show Notes.
00:24:06
That's super easy.
00:24:07
If you're listening in your podcast app, just go to the Show
00:24:09
Notes, click on the app where it's playing, click on the link,
00:24:13
fill it out.
00:24:14
If you already have thoughts in mind.
00:24:15
About this podcast.
00:24:17
If you've listen to it, you know, a couple times this year, then,
00:24:22
then, yeah, you're good.
00:24:24
If you've listened to it more than a couple times this year, then
00:24:27
you're perfect.
00:24:28
You're the exact person that needs to complete this.
00:24:30
And thank you so much for doing it.
00:24:32
But we'll enter you into a gift card.
00:24:35
Okay.
00:24:35
I'll send you one for just helping us out.
00:24:37
If you win, I'll use the information to, I don't know, just
00:24:41
to see some things yet.
00:24:42
Who's listening?
00:24:43
Because we don't know.
00:24:44
That's the thing with podcasts.
00:24:45
You just don't know.
00:24:47
And streaming, too, you know, we're not Bruce Springsteen looking
00:24:50
you in the eye every night.
00:24:52
Yeah, we've reached the end of the episode.
00:24:54
I've reached the end of the episode.
00:24:56
I keep saying we don't forget if you're a listener, to fill out
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that survey.
00:25:01
If you have a little time for Adam and Donovan, I'm blind.
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And we'll talk to you again next Tuesday morning.
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