Why You Should Watch 'Bad Monkey' and 'English Teacher' Is Good

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[00:01:31] $3,000 in the hole take it on sports

[00:01:34] You know my family now we weren't rich

[00:01:36] When I was growing up by any means and I'm not so sure we weren't that low middle class

[00:01:42] Looking back on it all but my dad had a real pinched for the updated or the best things when it came to like TV

[00:01:49] Not sure why I don't know so one of the many reasons why I ended up doing this podcast if I had to do suck

[00:01:54] I'll analysis on how I got here

[00:01:56] seeing like we had a satellite before any of our friends and I'm talking about the big and they said gotty white dish

[00:02:03] satellite

[00:02:03] Maybe even had a VCR pretty early on like a big bulky one

[00:02:08] I can remember we learned how to program it so that we wouldn't

[00:02:12] Miss episodes, you know like the early DVR the early on demand kind of thing

[00:02:18] We jumped on cable as soon as it came to our rural rural area hard word there

[00:02:23] I think that's why I chose

[00:02:24] Direct TV is a streaming provider and this is not an ad for them trust me they felt organized and like TV has always looked for me through the years

[00:02:33] And I think the picture quality may be one of the best according to the

[00:02:37] People online it seems to be one of the best as far streaming goes right so

[00:02:43] I was having a tough time when I got an elongated dispute with Disney

[00:02:48] Which included the ESPN and ABC big football channels be being sitting you know on the cusp of getting like a free trial of something else

[00:02:57] But luckily they fix that watch to a few games this weekend that nourished me a little

[00:03:03] I also watch the first two episodes of English teacher. That's on FX Hulu whichever one

[00:03:11] Got it me at first I thought it was the beginnings of a disaster and I was kind of disappointed with episode one because the

[00:03:17] High School setting can be so wrap for both story and comedy and as a

[00:03:22] literal English teacher myself

[00:03:24] It didn't click for me at first

[00:03:26] I think expectations got the better of me

[00:03:29] Took a full two episodes for me

[00:03:31] Those are you smarter than I you'll

[00:03:34] Wag your finger at your phone or your podcast app or computer right now at me because

[00:03:38] I didn't get it the first time. I think one of the big ideas

[00:03:43] One of the controlling art of this comedy series is it's showing how

[00:03:49] serious some of us take our important ideas

[00:03:53] Important stances it pokes fun at itself as well as shine a lot on how maybe we need a lot

[00:03:59] Not dare I say some of us are over sensitive about a few things. It's okay

[00:04:05] You can laugh and it's coming from

[00:04:08] Someone in that camp again the first episode felt standard for the types of

[00:04:13] Show that it is the setup is a a gay English teacher is putting the question for having a boyfriend

[00:04:19] And that's all I'll tell you about episode one and to me that's

[00:04:23] There's some predictability in that plot line

[00:04:25] I didn't really sense I said in the shift or new way of looking at the rest of

[00:04:32] What goes on around that conflict?

[00:04:34] But the second episode is where I chuckled I start chuckling

[00:04:39] I think it subverted a couple of things I was expecting there and I'm a hard person make LLL

[00:04:44] When it comes to TV and movies especially if I'm alone in at home

[00:04:47] Not here you had it's moments. It's rap bartom period too

[00:04:52] We're right about our views we we have a

[00:04:55] Reason to believe what we believe

[00:04:58] But we don't have to be fragile

[00:05:00] About it last I'll let me it some bias after the first episode I did some homework on the creator director at times

[00:05:07] Brian Jordan Alvarez

[00:05:09] Colored my perception so he got popular or perhaps more popular than he was the like TikTok videos

[00:05:16] where it sings is though

[00:05:18] his gag was at times a

[00:05:20] Facial distortion app or trick of the camera and a silly voice

[00:05:25] I found that sort of thing kind of dumb not like intelligent dumb like I'm intelligent I'm playing dumb

[00:05:30] That's my favorite kind of comedy someone intelligent who's being numb at the right moment or

[00:05:36] Training it so I started to think after episode one of English major that

[00:05:40] Pairing that with Brian Jordan Alvarez is background that hey, it might not be the show for me. It's just not

[00:05:46] I've reached the age

[00:05:48] I wanted to like it but I also wanted to be objective in view it with the critical law

[00:05:52] So I'm glad I stuck around

[00:05:54] It's hard to talk about why the episode cooked so much more than the first but it boils down to

[00:05:59] If you know anything about powder puff if you're Southern less than or you know about powder puff

[00:06:04] powder puff is goofy and fun and any more to it than that

[00:06:08] It's just a fault of overthinking

[00:06:09] So there's also this notion

[00:06:11] Baked into the episode where

[00:06:14] Sometimes suspicions are right no matter who the person is

[00:06:19] And a place for comedy there you'll like it I think

[00:06:22] I can recommend English teacher to most people. It's as it strobes. It has its

[00:06:28] Moments of sitcom

[00:06:30] Standards there are times where it feels like it could very well have fit in I

[00:06:35] Thurzying on me sea slot back in the 90s, but there are also moments where it feels like an effects who loot comedy

[00:06:41] On the higher caliber of what they produce

[00:06:45] All right, let's get our show probably started bringing in Donald thanks for listening

[00:06:57] Okay, I'm here with my partner

[00:06:59] My detective my coat my you're the actual detective. I'm the

[00:07:05] Which one of us is the one that's off the case and which one of us is the monkey?

[00:07:11] Hopefully no monkey here, but don't ones with me. No out of this week

[00:07:16] Technical troubles he's he's been sideline by the commission

[00:07:21] He had to turn in his badge. Yeah, look all charges have been dropped but the sheriff is not happy

[00:07:29] Before we get that's obviously this bad monkey references in there if you think if you're having caught up

[00:07:35] But don't worry. We don't we don't spoil anything until a little lighter

[00:07:38] Did you know that the old man that Jeff Bridges and John with Galsho on effects who became back to TV this week?

[00:07:46] I honestly forgot and that I watched that for season like I'd honestly forgot and it existed

[00:07:51] Yes, but see me that me too. See the ads. I'm like yeah, I'd probably I'd probably watch I mean

[00:07:58] Jeff Bridges man. Yeah, I'm jobless goes deep good too, but I mean that you know Jeff Bridges come on

[00:08:05] The thing that's really

[00:08:06] Picked my interest about it returning is every little headline I'm seeing is saying that

[00:08:13] It's getting a little weirder

[00:08:15] I watch that it's I think one headline basically said the it's very stereotypical but weird

[00:08:22] Which and you know how how can that be so yeah? I mean trust

[00:08:26] I wonder what that means how do you guys think I dare to even now? I'm gonna watch it because they're doing it weekly

[00:08:32] Which is so much more digestible? It's hard when you get that big chunk all at once

[00:08:39] Yeah, so stick into like to sustain the continued conversation because so many people are like I've already seen episode seven

[00:08:46] And I don't actually had a when I was briefly

[00:08:50] I

[00:08:51] Don't know how the results of this came out. I was when I was briefly lately is on for the communication department at UConn

[00:08:58] One of my grad students was working on like the experience of like

[00:09:02] Watching maybe one or two episodes of ones versus been what binge watching and she's like the real problem is there's no definition for traditional

[00:09:09] She'd be watching or binge watching so she had a whole lot of problems with it was good

[00:09:13] But she had a lot of stuff to define not proud with her just stopped to work through but like preliminary stuff is like if you binge it

[00:09:20] You don't really remember it as opposed to like week by week by week

[00:09:24] It's just it's just a different it's it. Like the preliminary research that she was polling on does seem to indicate

[00:09:30] I mean she this was a year ago so I'm sure there's more now

[00:09:33] But it seems to indicate that it's really a different experience

[00:09:36] Wait a minute when you say research did you mean

[00:09:40] academic researcher just like I'm gonna do you know quote unquote research academic research

[00:09:46] Yeah, she was listening to this in

[00:09:48] At this point probably in a space spent like five or six years ago

[00:09:51] That's fascinating. I would love to read that because that's exactly what we talk about at least once a month on here

[00:09:58] Oh yeah no communication

[00:10:00] The the disamblinness is very interesting and actually has a lot to say

[00:10:03] Yeah, I found it very interesting because we get you know we talk about it here

[00:10:08] And you even have like like like in business and marketing people talk about like hey

[00:10:14] Is it like is the Netflix model the way to go or is more of the Amazon model or the Apple TV now as well

[00:10:21] You know where it's week by week. You know what what's actually more effective at getting into

[00:10:26] The conversation can you have a watercolor conversation with the

[00:10:30] With it with a big dump, you know

[00:10:32] Is that what you want

[00:10:34] You brought up a good point which is big dump

[00:10:40] Well

[00:10:42] With how do you define binging because I know some people will be like oh

[00:10:46] I kind of binged the share list on how many episodes do you want to right?

[00:10:50] It also it's like okay, meaning you took up all your time your two hours that you had you used on only that show and I understand that and to agree

[00:10:58] But I don't think that's quite binging and yeah, and what she was running into is like even very simply right like okay

[00:11:03] I watched one episode of an hour long show and in that time I watched two episodes of a 30 minutes show or three episodes of like as if three episodes of a 15-minute show in an hour

[00:11:15] Is that a binge because you took the same amount of time

[00:11:17] For an hour yeah, a lot of just basic definitions. I I mean

[00:11:22] It was it was really interesting because part of the thing is like

[00:11:26] You know you go with the best research you have and then you just you make your own definitions right based off of

[00:11:32] Where the research is right because you're gonna contribute to the the conversation, you know

[00:11:37] So you just for sure as you can anyway very interesting stuff

[00:11:40] Yeah, well that it kind of what happened to us with bad monkey we let probably

[00:11:45] Two more than we should pile up

[00:11:48] Yes

[00:11:49] Yeah, brings us only talk about three episodes later on so we might spoil two or three episodes later on

[00:11:57] But I do want to say do I need to open the floor for any Lord of the rings talk here

[00:12:02] Hold my tongue

[00:12:04] Well a long time listeners may know that I don't care what's happening in new manure

[00:12:10] Does anyone

[00:12:12] So I will say with with this season

[00:12:14] I still don't give a damn about a hard foot. I'm starting to feel the same way about them that blame fields about baby Yoda

[00:12:20] Now you

[00:12:22] clarification of a conflict in

[00:12:24] The first episode made it much more interesting to me this time stuff that I was like this is it

[00:12:30] Is still but last season this is it is still anti me

[00:12:34] But some of the stuff that I thought this is good is also working for me and this additional dynamic

[00:12:40] I've been liking I don't think if you're not I do think that this is like it's approaching to the

[00:12:47] Preaching to the converted show like if you don't already like it sitting down and watching this

[00:12:52] It's probably not gonna make you like it so what you're answer to the tip it reviews

[00:12:56] I see if some people think it's a little tap it

[00:12:58] They do they kind of have a little too much going on one of the things that I

[00:13:03] Bumble about mumble about every episode. I think is really just me but I do think there's a little bit of like

[00:13:09] Hey, this like half idea that J.R. Tolkien had you know like now you've got to flesh it out and make it sound somewhat sane

[00:13:15] And it's like it was just it just works differently in TV versus but there's been I don't know

[00:13:20] I've been actually enjoying the main or at least who were supposed to think is the main antagonist because it

[00:13:27] It really does seem like it will like literally the entire world since against it right now

[00:13:31] And that's became much more interesting

[00:13:34] All right there you go

[00:13:36] There that's yeah, it's my confused here on the pimp's that starting episode what excuse me

[00:13:41] Season two there you go at the top of the show today's episode

[00:13:44] I gave some brief thoughts on the

[00:13:46] FX who lose series English teacher. I wanted to ask you if you've ever

[00:13:52] Experience the sort of disappointment where a series or a movie book piece of music anything

[00:13:57] Sounded absolutely tailor made for you only discover that man

[00:14:02] I don't think I like this or it's missed it some arc or you were disappointed by it at first

[00:14:08] Yes, of course

[00:14:09] I can't like now that you've asked the question. I'm like give me a specific I'm like looking

[00:14:12] I have books in the street when I'm literally looking around like is anything kind of like spark my

[00:14:17] But I know I've had this

[00:14:18] There's no so much that you knew the author or artist but you heard about it and you thought that's for me

[00:14:23] Like you hear the description you're like hell yeah, then it's like way to man it

[00:14:28] Yeah, it's it's about

[00:14:30] Objectivity and expectations that's pose. It's hard to

[00:14:34] Cage expectations and this is a quite what you're describing but like have you ever

[00:14:38] Like had a piece of art or something that's like you kind of knew of culturally

[00:14:43] Like you've never read it, but you know about it culturally or something or you're like oh I've always heard that's really good

[00:14:48] And you kind of know what it's about yeah, and then you start it and it's like wow this is completely different

[00:14:53] Just like because obviously nothing can live like the expectation lives in its own world, right?

[00:14:58] Because it's yours. I tell you that could happen for me with Ripley. Oh, yeah, okay

[00:15:03] Because I knew that's because perfect description where I knew a whole lot about it right now if about it

[00:15:10] Like I get the I think I know the outline. Yeah, that's the way I felt it

[00:15:13] So I until actually like recently shame on me

[00:15:17] But I'd never seen Siser's raging ball until like months like like like like earlier this year

[00:15:23] Yeah, and like I knew it like I knew what it was about you know

[00:15:26] I'd know like the guys an actual person so I knew that

[00:15:30] I've read things about it, but I never seen it and even that was like

[00:15:34] This like and it's good by the way. It's good. You should watch it. I liked it

[00:15:38] But even that right it's so funny because it's like I know like a

[00:15:42] Lot about this to the point where like if you made a joke about raging ball

[00:15:46] I could probably get it without seeing the movie that's the there's the cultural touch down

[00:15:51] But then actually yeah, I have a friend who calls it um Simpsons level humor like Simpsons level knowledge

[00:15:56] He's like it's it's enough knowledge of it that like if the Simpsons made a joke about it

[00:16:00] I would chuckle even if I haven't seen it

[00:16:04] You do the

[00:16:05] Leonardo DiCaprio meme where I get that yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what that is exactly

[00:16:12] But I've got good news about a good shaker

[00:16:15] The second episode got me okay?

[00:16:17] The second episode put the rope around me and it started to real me and I thought it was pretty funny

[00:16:21] I thought it's on par with some of the better comedies or sitcoms for the last few years

[00:16:27] It does have

[00:16:29] Two or three maybe sitcom tropes per episode

[00:16:32] I would put it on par now. It has nothing in common with this show me about the mention

[00:16:37] But I would put it on par with a step below perhaps not on par

[00:16:42] What we do in the shadows is very okay. I would put it one below that okay as far as just

[00:16:48] Humor laughs that's probably a mixer because I'm not there to be like your life is incomplete

[00:16:54] If you don't watch what we do in the shadows, I mean it's fucking good. It's me good laugh

[00:17:00] It's fucking joyful

[00:17:03] It is

[00:17:04] I don't know for too it always reserve I look forward to it every week but I also try to

[00:17:08] Position in a place when I need a good smile

[00:17:12] This is not an episode about what we do in the shadows, but like it just is so

[00:17:16] It's so joy it's so good because it's like like it's

[00:17:21] Like you can think about it as much or as little as you want to

[00:17:25] Like it's like it can if you want it to be dumb. Hey, it's dumb. They're dumb. They're dumb narcissists

[00:17:30] If you want it to be smart well actually these are pretty smart jokes about the way that dumb narcissists operate in the world

[00:17:36] That's really funny because I'm into the top of the episode about English. He drew it's a very similar

[00:17:40] I mean there is some similarities as far as just characterization

[00:17:44] What we do in the shadows is going to enter its final season nine some months. Oh, yeah, we probably will bring it that's hard for a king

[00:17:52] Because yes, but you do understand

[00:17:53] I'm I understand everything

[00:17:55] I get and I understand too just like everyone being like we've had a good run

[00:18:00] You know we don't want this to turn into what was it like the last three seasons of friends like

[00:18:05] Everyone's making a million dollars and no one wants to be here

[00:18:09] It exact me to know

[00:18:13] It exacts me to think about what some of those three leads who play the vampires that I really didn't know much about until

[00:18:22] I saw the show

[00:18:23] What would like what are they gonna do next without all the makeup in the vampire stuff, you know?

[00:18:27] You know that very is other other job is he's a voice actor for

[00:18:33] Besides acting. I should say oh no

[00:18:35] He's a musician he does like he does like have English like a lot of like C70s like folky stuff and it act like but look more like

[00:18:44] English folk for Corey. He's actually pretty good. He says it's actually not bad like check it out

[00:18:50] So maybe you'll go do that

[00:18:52] I know this what we do in the shadows helped us fall in love with him man

[00:18:56] I love that I'd seen him in in Garth merengues dark place, but it really yeah

[00:19:00] There's there's just something like you know you've got something when you can say like it like the way he's like new yokes today

[00:19:07] And he always says it like that

[00:19:10] Like when you can when you can just say something and I'm cracking up like you got something going there

[00:19:16] The touch tone for a good

[00:19:17] Comedy for me is the arrested development and

[00:19:21] It's always sunny

[00:19:22] Both of those do this quite well. It's where

[00:19:26] You laugh in the moment like literally and that's hard for me to do

[00:19:29] laugh at the moment like produce a laugh

[00:19:32] But you also think about it later and think oh god that really is funny. Yeah

[00:19:37] Well, let me think about this tomorrow

[00:19:38] Like yeah, I do that where I'm like sitting at work. I'll just be like how did they that that it?

[00:19:44] And that is not a Volvo. Oh, I had to think it away with this

[00:19:47] And these Michael that's the Volvo again

[00:19:50] more arrested development quotes there

[00:19:52] But I'll wrap with English teacher and this might sell some people and I don't like I said this at the top which is my favorite part of it all

[00:20:00] Maybe that it seems to be really fun with making fun of the same

[00:20:04] It seems to be really fun

[00:20:06] With making fun of the same

[00:20:08] ideological beliefs it loves

[00:20:11] I think I'm fine with that. I actually kind of like that better, you know where you're like if you have you know

[00:20:16] They're sorry. That's not entirely true because there's great satire to be had out of like sure

[00:20:21] Repulsive but I do think there's a sort of honesty

[00:20:24] We're like this is who I am

[00:20:28] And I even believe that you know, you know

[00:20:30] I even have like a strongly held belief but also at the same time

[00:20:33] I can see where you can poke at it. You know

[00:20:35] So it's not really punching down or punching up but so much is just

[00:20:39] punching

[00:20:41] Yourself or

[00:20:42] Yourself how to nuts

[00:20:45] It does that a little bit it does a little satire say, but yeah, it's good

[00:20:49] We agree though like before we go any further we agree that teaching English should be illegal

[00:20:55] Go on

[00:20:56] Just like it should be against a lot first kids are a speaker

[00:21:00] Secondly, they're gonna get read the great gas being become unsatisfied with their lives

[00:21:04] Mead I need I go on my friend. I'm starting the great debts be this very

[00:21:09] You right with my career. Well, they're just gonna be looking for that green light blade

[00:21:14] They're just unsatisfied that I'm making them read it or talk about it

[00:21:18] Only unsatisfaction that they're

[00:21:23] Let's shift gears into bad monkey before we

[00:21:26] Brighten out some specifics if you trust our taste this is the part you want to hear

[00:21:31] Maybe no further. Yeah, I have as I have a succinct

[00:21:35] And this is Alabama taken inspired review just love it. So help our listener to set of bad monkeys for them guys

[00:21:42] I've watched two episodes

[00:21:43] It's just a good hang so far

[00:21:46] Like it is a plot it's an hour. It's a pleasure or a blower

[00:21:50] I find that mince fawn is one of those guys were like if he can be a little I've seen them in stuff where he's miscast

[00:21:57] But if they're using him right it's just like the way he says things is funny

[00:22:02] Just something about his delivery will get you

[00:22:04] This is that kind of where you just like I'm like I roll it over me this is good stuff. Let's go

[00:22:11] Yeah, I'm gonna sought some examples in the spoiler section, but

[00:22:14] That's exactly what I have it's gonna completely hinge on the it's bon if you can tolerate him in the least

[00:22:20] This is Tyler made for him, but if you can tolerate it's bon in the least this shows got more than just Vaughan

[00:22:27] Yeah, but

[00:22:28] He's a little icing on the cake if you're not crazy about him

[00:22:31] What I is fun for me just like the good hang part is like his his delivery and repartate just like his his delivery in cadences

[00:22:39] With the other actors in himself work really. Oh, yeah really pretty well that like can consistently kind of make me chuckle

[00:22:46] You know like that's as pretty good

[00:22:48] I'm gonna say this might be his best role since

[00:22:52] Swingers or some of those early alt movies. Oh, yeah definitely

[00:22:55] Definitely absolutely you know, especially when you think of something like

[00:23:00] This was years ago now, but I think of like true detective season two we're like

[00:23:04] I'm not that it is not that he wasn't trying he very very clearly was trying

[00:23:09] It's not that Vince Vaughan or hard enough

[00:23:12] It's that he was not written or directed to his strengths and you know it was and you could tell that

[00:23:19] He was kind of miscast there. That's what I'm saying yeah, yeah if they didn't

[00:23:24] They cast him but they didn't use him well

[00:23:27] Which is a shame

[00:23:28] Yeah, because when he's good, he's very good the thing I think a lot of people will love about bad monkey

[00:23:34] The monkey the monkey

[00:23:37] There is a literal monkey

[00:23:38] You can watch this show kind of two ways or or come on them

[00:23:43] You can watch it for the detective mystery who done what but you can also just watch it

[00:23:50] Yeah, you know what I mean you can also just

[00:23:54] Relish keywast for 45 minutes

[00:23:57] I mean, I haven't gotten too far into the plot but I have a sense that like I'm not gonna like time myself

[00:24:03] I'm not gonna time myself and not trying to figure out this mystery right like I just want it like

[00:24:08] That's not where my brain power needs to be spent

[00:24:10] It's gonna go I'm just gonna understand that it is a plot that is moving things forward

[00:24:16] More broadly while I say that or continuing with broad strokes. It's it's sharp in its dialogue

[00:24:21] I think the plot actually gets a kind of sharp around episode three

[00:24:25] It's a lot of fun

[00:24:27] Excellent cast yeah looks great on TV looks very good

[00:24:31] He West I'm gonna move to he West tomorrow looks great. I've got my bags packed

[00:24:36] I want to I want to help a little there you know I will no part of my name me, but had no

[00:24:40] He might have to go he West absolutely

[00:24:43] And again you can think through the mystery at its narrative core or you can just go along for the ride

[00:24:47] And either ones gonna work or both even I think maybe we've been promising

[00:24:51] Bad monkey for a few weeks this point it's based up a Carl highson

[00:24:55] Obel yeah, and we need their vests of red. I have not read

[00:24:58] I have read and I won Carl highson book

[00:25:01] I was a teenager it was a book free young adults

[00:25:04] I can't remember what it was called or a damn thing that happened

[00:25:07] But I do remember

[00:25:08] I do remember it was a called kind of bad monkey

[00:25:10] It was just sort of pro-do bad monkey

[00:25:15] This was book is not that old I can remember seeing you know in shills about 10 years ago

[00:25:19] Yeah, a big red cover especially because he always gets those kind of dynamic covers and I guess he sells well enough that

[00:25:25] I've he's on book shelves or in library, you know like he's prominently displayed

[00:25:29] Well, I'd never heard of him other than seeing that cover not really connecting the name to this show

[00:25:34] Yeah, it's supposedly a cult classic amongst readers of

[00:25:38] John R. I didn't know

[00:25:40] Yeah, it's anyway. Yeah, obviously starts with it's ball on um put together by Bill Lawrence

[00:25:45] You guys know him from Ted Lasso scrubs and shrinking recently

[00:25:49] I forget that he's done shrinking which also comes back in a month shrinkage. Yeah

[00:25:56] Shrinking shrinkage

[00:26:00] Let's pick it apart so

[00:26:02] Probably start with less boiler relief and then eventually get into some plot points

[00:26:07] So you know if you're still on board, I mean you may want to check your top stamps

[00:26:13] All right, I gotta start with a big wood. Yeah

[00:26:16] Is the voice over working for you? It's fine. I don't care one way or the other it's fine. It's part of the show

[00:26:21] I don't really care. Yeah

[00:26:23] I don't love it but like there's a couple points where it made me chuckle, you know like hey

[00:26:28] We saw their problem the way men would but like handing each other beers. Like yeah, that's kind of funny

[00:26:32] But yeah, mostly it's just there. I don't care that much

[00:26:35] I don't love it and I think it's

[00:26:37] Shade but that might be the point. I don't know. I feel like I have to see if I'm like it to the end and I'm like oh

[00:26:44] Big fish tail or something like that then great, but if I you know

[00:26:47] I just it's just there for me honestly. I kind of forget that it's a part of the show

[00:26:54] Until we'll tell the narrator speaks again so I don't I don't know if that's good or bad

[00:26:58] I don't know if he would lose anything if it was gone

[00:27:02] Perhaps he would lose the ability to just have fun because it does hold your hand a little

[00:27:09] It does hold your hand. I mean there is a little bit of the tell-note show

[00:27:14] If that makes sense where it's like I can instantly be like hey these guys these guys are partners right

[00:27:18] They're but partners are good buddies, but they kind of hate each other like a married couple

[00:27:23] Right

[00:27:24] Yeah, maybe it just kind of like juices that up a little bit

[00:27:28] I don't know because most Lee has seen like scenes setting

[00:27:32] With episode one I remember thinking that the expectations may have gotten me again

[00:27:37] Because I did enjoy myself quite a bit, but I was really hoping Vince Vaughan would be led off his chain he'd be free of shackles

[00:27:44] But I think the second and third episode

[00:27:46] Let's start the first first episode

[00:27:50] I do think that this is actually like very well

[00:27:54] Working with Vince Vaughan's drinks and I think yeah like the second episode

[00:27:57] Like when he starts having to do a health inspector

[00:27:59] He's like going through the list of everything that's wrong. He's like and there's a there's a condiment that suit

[00:28:05] The guys like that's a chatter

[00:28:07] Like that's just

[00:28:09] Yeah, it's good like just the way the way it's

[00:28:12] Like it kind of starts coming forward. Yeah, all right. That's pretty good

[00:28:16] The first episode also struck made that this could easily be a USA network show from the early odds

[00:28:23] In the fan of like a suit or Bernoudus, but absolutely the cast is obviously more expensive

[00:28:30] The rotting is a is a sharper and it's it's filmed a little better

[00:28:36] Directed a little better. I would say Bernoudus

[00:28:39] Which is perfectly fine is one of those things. It's like it's no like I'm as smart as I need to be like I'm as good as I need to be like I'm as good as

[00:28:52] What you pay for there you give it's paid for exactly I did realize that I loved it

[00:28:58] Our story to fall in love with this up with the series when when bonds

[00:29:02] He's a former detective Yancy there and he calls his ex partner Bobby not over the phone for yelling at a girl soccer

[00:29:10] Yeah, that's like no this is this is gonna be good that kind of line from Vaughan

[00:29:16] But that delivery is weird. That's that's gotta be classic Vince Vaughan riffing. I think so

[00:29:22] I feel like they're just it feels like a lot of stuff where it's like they just let him say stuff

[00:29:26] And they yeah, they probably took yeah, probably ran it for about five takes and pick a ass

[00:29:31] Exactly

[00:29:33] Floridian Tom paid he being covered to nice bonus. Do you like extremely faithful Tom petty covers because my friends you are in love

[00:29:40] Well, I got news for you don't remember there's gonna be a moment and episode three where you're like oh

[00:29:45] That's that is a Tom petty cover

[00:29:47] I think the one I've hit so if I got the war on drugs one

[00:29:51] Why they're a diaper on there?

[00:29:54] Yeah, don't they do running out of the tree? I forget they've got a kid. I'm getting all mixed up together

[00:29:58] Then Kurt Viles got one for a while. I forget who else

[00:30:03] Are they gonna package these as a soundtrack somehow?

[00:30:07] You know if your

[00:30:09] Bands that I like that are covering Tom petty and put it out, please

[00:30:13] Yeah, cuz some of them are kind of good for that

[00:30:15] Adam and I have discussed how it's

[00:30:18] Super hard to cover Tom petty

[00:30:22] Because you because the trick is he's got chords you can replicate like you think to yourself

[00:30:28] I know I monitor C in G. I could play this song

[00:30:31] But he's just got a feel there's a certain feel to his

[00:30:37] songs

[00:30:39] I'd believe that because

[00:30:41] Like even the difference between like the album version and a live version of something that he does

[00:30:47] We're even just something like

[00:30:48] Like changing like the dynamics of the song and it's up making it a completely different song

[00:30:54] Or just like emphasizing certain parts that are maybe not emphasized in in the album cover or

[00:31:01] Version yeah

[00:31:02] It's more than the sum of its pockets, you know

[00:31:05] Yeah, it's yeah. It's his band too

[00:31:07] Yeah, yeah, for sure

[00:31:10] Tom petty is another guy where it's like and this is not a negative but it's like

[00:31:15] I think like for he's like

[00:31:18] Almost like a smart as you want to be in the sense that like

[00:31:21] You can play free falling and hear free falling and not care about music

[00:31:25] But like if you really start to lay like this stuff that just seems like a simple crowd

[00:31:29] Please you're like you really start to listen to it and you're like man

[00:31:33] What a lot you know like what a line what a and

[00:31:36] Like it can be is just like you know it's background and I'm kind of enjoying it

[00:31:40] Or you can sit and really listen and really get a lot out of it

[00:31:43] And I do think that's kind of impressive

[00:31:46] There's also the

[00:31:48] Skill set that he has beyond rodigens which is I challenge anyone to

[00:31:54] Sing along to free fall and feel comfortable because you real

[00:31:57] The verses are just anyone can sing those verses anyone can sing that course until he reaches that point

[00:32:03] He says and I'm free fallen and you can't he goes from I guess he just goes higher

[00:32:08] But he still says it's the same key or something

[00:32:10] It's you cannot replicate it not like he is like the most perfect

[00:32:15] Tenor of all time but like he truly knows how to use his voice as an instrument

[00:32:19] It makes me that's right like every time I hear under pressure

[00:32:22] You know the queen David Bowie song

[00:32:24] The David Bowie parts are much much more interesting to me than the Freddie Mercury parts

[00:32:29] David Bowie truly knows how to use his voice as another instrument where it's Freddie Mercury is a good singer

[00:32:35] So I'm like so listeners when you hear free fall in next time when he goes from and

[00:32:40] Right there's your cutoff point try try to hit that free with him without without without without sounding horrible because

[00:32:48] I have then singing along to that in the car and you can't hit it. You can't do it. I have tried

[00:32:54] As many times as have heard that song and I just have to stop singing right there. I've never heard anyone

[00:33:00] Covering it do it they all go you they have to go lower

[00:33:02] They can't do the up. I think you're right. I don't think I've ever heard anyone

[00:33:06] I think I've heard people go lower not higher

[00:33:09] It's really interesting

[00:33:11] So you get a little florety and Tom petty covers which is a that's a funny little touch it's

[00:33:17] I like it's when you get the money you can spend it, you know

[00:33:20] Yeah, they're spending they're spending iPhone 16 money

[00:33:23] These Tom petty rights

[00:33:26] There is a lot going on in the first episode which called me by surprise after going over it

[00:33:30] Here's the setup which

[00:33:32] Feel for you talk about any part you can't see returns a severed arm to this trophy wife Eve

[00:33:37] Who stepped out of Caitlin believes she's murdered her estranged father

[00:33:43] This said trophy wife Eve Eve is a trapezing around an island set for new condo

[00:33:49] Which will run poor Neville out of his fishing shack home

[00:33:54] Takes him to hit up the dragon going to cook up some probably like Voodoo top on this developer

[00:34:00] That very del that very developer played by Rob Delaney

[00:34:04] It's the same person who shoots the young and dumb guy who found the arm in the first place

[00:34:08] It's the best talking to you in an in just a few seconds

[00:34:10] Don't forget there's there's a condo being or no, sorry I make mansion being

[00:34:15] Built next to Nancy's house and he hates that guy. Yeah, there's his motif of building new things

[00:34:21] His girlfriends insane oh

[00:34:26] Bonnie, that's right

[00:34:27] Find a little bit about Bonnie

[00:34:32] Yancy talking to the young and dumb pussy magnet was the L.O.L. Highlight though

[00:34:38] I was like where could he be there he is?

[00:34:42] Let's everyone know

[00:34:45] That was good, but you know you're right the ladies of the show are very interesting so far

[00:34:51] We've got Bonnie the ex girlfriend who also is married who also has a little bit of mystery

[00:34:56] We've got Rosa who's a very charming intelligent corner

[00:35:01] Works in a morgue yep Eve the ditzy widow I mentioned the dragon queen very commanding and scary

[00:35:10] Caitlyn

[00:35:11] She's the angry and oddly new age Christian daughter of the deceased and then we get Heather with the weather just to throw her in there

[00:35:18] With the weather what the hell miss rude there?

[00:35:21] Heather with the weather who is taking up some screen time enough to make you think what the hell's going on with her

[00:35:27] I'll admit that the Caitlyn one I was thinking like oh, this is maybe a one-note character and then the

[00:35:32] Revel when she shut it up it like the funeral with the boyfriend and then the revelation

[00:35:38] The boyfriends that youth pastor is he's like sending you such a trip. I was like that was good

[00:35:43] I wasn't expecting that with the cool god luminators top hat on

[00:35:48] Not touch right like yeah, I'm like oh you bring like mega churches into this. Yeah, we're gonna

[00:35:54] I'm gonna laugh at that. That's gonna work

[00:35:57] Speaking of a not specific detail to have Rosa she's the lady who works for Miami date county corner

[00:36:04] To have her take the shirt off corpse and wear it in the same day. That's just really light specific and on

[00:36:10] She's like I got it at work. Yeah, it's funny

[00:36:13] That is probably the only point where the boy's ever really made me laugh or she's like

[00:36:18] Like I'm gonna look to the guy that she's talking she's like letting fresh and upper whatever and I'll come back and it's like he just got in divorce

[00:36:24] So this was a big day for him

[00:36:27] That's fair. I'm like okay, that made me laugh

[00:36:29] Here's a little something about episode one. It's trivia related that I found yeah

[00:36:35] Yancy leaks that bone from the shower because yes, sounds are porous in your tongue will stick to bone

[00:36:42] What did it mean to but I don't even think you had it was just a weird thing

[00:36:48] Yeah, I thought it was just a goofy moment, but now I mean it made me laugh and like the whole scene there made me laugh

[00:36:55] Yeah a little restraint with the voice over there I suppose

[00:37:01] Absolutely helps to expand the plot and I do think that is where it finds its gears

[00:37:07] They feel like in a place. I would agree with that as well Vince Vaughn's one lineers

[00:37:12] Get better better so

[00:37:14] Am I a

[00:37:15] Favorite or one that really jumped out at me was when he talks to his ex partner in a car

[00:37:21] Where he tells him sometimes I feel like I'm in a movie that you're riding on your head no

[00:37:25] Excuse me, this is ex girlfriend. He's yeah, yeah, sometimes I feel like I'm in a movie that you're riding in your head

[00:37:29] I love that she's like she's like

[00:37:32] Thank you

[00:37:35] You found out she's wanted an Oklahoma. I didn't see that coming yeah, I did not see that come

[00:37:41] He's wanted an Oklahoma maybe for English teaching but also for fucking

[00:37:45] You know it's Oklahoma after all

[00:37:50] This shows a wrong man. I enjoy it. Yes, same. I'm enjoying it. I don't think it's without its flaws

[00:37:56] I do like a talk about the voice of her but I do think that uh it you know, it doesn't want to be

[00:38:02] The sort of detective tale that won't you just shift too hard through the details. I don't think

[00:38:08] This is why I was like it my review is it's a good hang like yeah

[00:38:13] I think like it could even end up being like a shaggy dog story

[00:38:17] You know where the point is not this little yeah, I could be

[00:38:21] It's got a couple other little flaws. It has this feel now so so so far

[00:38:25] Devils a little underdeveloped and that's my that was my complaint

[00:38:30] Neville is good but so far as I had a lot to do besides like he's a nice handsome guy

[00:38:35] Basically it I found it jolting that we're told

[00:38:40] Neville is supposed to be a ladies man. That feels like a trait that could have been easy kind of to show

[00:38:45] Maybe yeah, you're there

[00:38:47] Showing in the girl yeah, or heck even when the

[00:38:50] The sister in the sports car right just that conversation between them

[00:38:55] Tows yeah enough

[00:38:57] Yeah, but it's fine. Yeah, these are medium to tiny size faults

[00:39:01] This is not like in a room in your enjoyment of the episode. This is just like

[00:39:05] This is not perfect

[00:39:07] Rosa and Yancis burgeoning

[00:39:10] Relationship as partners and or love interest

[00:39:12] Is it okay you think you? Is it work for you? Yes fine. You see what happens. Yeah, because I like it

[00:39:18] I have a little chemistry and I don't think they work well in the scenes like in the shower scene where they're not as sexy as it sounds

[00:39:25] If you it's not

[00:39:26] We're seeing like those are definitely bone frags like why do you let me put them in my mouth?

[00:39:31] Like that was just good back and forth, you know

[00:39:33] There's an honest moment in episode three. I appreciate a lot from routers or the director where she makes the

[00:39:41] Lon that he's a little older than me, but blah blah blah

[00:39:44] I'm a thank you for pointing that out. He it's fun is a little older than that actress

[00:39:49] He is although she's what for any we shall like so get it for you

[00:39:53] Can grief yeah, it's got its thorns. That's gonna be fun to figure out as well as

[00:39:59] The comedy of it all I think enough besides like the comedy of it all like there's another

[00:40:05] Thing that just like kind of always gets me in sucker punches me which is like

[00:40:08] Bambi was my favorite movie when I was two years old so obviously I helped myself

[00:40:13] So it's like yeah if you've got a guy who's like

[00:40:17] Hate's make mansions and what's to enjoy wildlife and it kind of help out wildlife

[00:40:22] I'm gonna I'm gonna watch that show

[00:40:24] Like that's kind of real me like I'm enough of a sucker to be like I love this guy

[00:40:29] He helps baby deer

[00:40:33] I'm intrigued on how they move the character for around you know Bonnie is almost a sad character

[00:40:38] Now so you know what's gonna become of that y'all won't spoil episode three for really anyone but there are

[00:40:47] Two very very LOL moments for for me as far as just

[00:40:52] Quips one honors that people are going to love and a hell of a cliffhanger

[00:40:59] The episode three which episode three was the first

[00:41:04] Episode that went weekly so they did the first two and then weekly

[00:41:09] And three yeah, it makes sense. Yeah makes sense

[00:41:13] You'll wonder too. We're very much of a piece. Yeah, sort of is a little harder when both are an hour

[00:41:19] Yeah, I feel like two is what we're really cranked up

[00:41:22] Like I could see you watching episode one and being like

[00:41:26] I can't do you're probably gonna hang you're probably gonna hang hang tight

[00:41:30] Yeah, almost had that experience where I watched episode one and I was like well

[00:41:35] Is this not just a USA network show on Apple TV now but but that's what it was for me like episode one

[00:41:40] I'm like I like this, but did I eight or 10 episodes like this and then episode two

[00:41:45] It's like okay. Yeah, they're revving it up a little okay. I'm in now episode three really really cooks

[00:41:52] Good cliffhanger like a mentioned smarter viewers have pointed out something

[00:41:56] I think you could figure out maybe with episode three and I was like whoa okay fine

[00:42:00] I'm not kind of you were never having been in on that smart

[00:42:03] smarter viewers than me is a low bar. I've been asked to leave Reddit my takes are some bad

[00:42:11] At times on this podcast we've been like is it a good hang and like something yeah, it's a good hang

[00:42:18] You know guys summers summers ending take things on island time September keyway

[00:42:25] Exactly, I'm sorry, but the pussy man that kid is just that's too much. That's funny

[00:42:30] That was hilarious and just like yeah

[00:42:34] Yeah, that was that was very good. You think there's no one would buy that, but yeah people

[00:42:39] There are people if people weren't buying them they wouldn't be selling either

[00:42:43] Go my what's the what's the land or dog one when he says oh there he is there is there's the pussy

[00:42:49] He's like in the girlfriends like I know babe. I was like that's you

[00:42:54] He's talking about getting it

[00:42:57] That's you no one can deliver that line but it's far more to sell

[00:43:00] That was good

[00:43:02] Was pushy magnets the pussy magnet in here very is

[00:43:06] If we only have a tent of vans charisma it's special nishio as far as like the kind of like parasocial relationship

[00:43:13] You form with an actor of seeming like I would also like to have a beer with that's fun

[00:43:19] Just just just kick back and you know chat that for a little bit seems like he'd be fine to have over for a barbecue

[00:43:25] You know we've lost listeners who didn't want to be spoiled, but if you're mileage varies with Vaughn

[00:43:32] I think I get it, but at the same time

[00:43:35] He is not Jesse plemms

[00:43:37] Where I can see like if you drop him dead like there's stuff that he's just not suited for

[00:43:42] Just not and then all I think just kind of the nature of

[00:43:45] His talents he's kind of has been casting a lot of stuff that's like

[00:43:50] A lot of good stuff, but a lot of like yeah, too. You know the guy the guy works for living

[00:43:55] But this is really playing more to his strengths I think and if you like one hundred percent ever seen those strengths

[00:44:00] Yeah, then I think I think you'll go pretty I think you'll be getting the good miles per gallon

[00:44:06] Do you love vans Vaughn in wedding crashes but find it

[00:44:11] A tinge

[00:44:13] Massagenistic

[00:44:14] Absolutely they in your love this I like him more actually in uh, what is it old school old school he's great

[00:44:20] Where's this something about he's a little older he's a dad yeah he's a little older he's a dad

[00:44:24] He's like kind of playing the straight guy

[00:44:27] But not a hundred percent you know like he's kind of the straight man to will feral and

[00:44:32] And the rest

[00:44:33] Look real some like sort of like he's sort of responsible

[00:44:37] Yeah, cuz loot wilts is the straight guy and then you get welfare all the

[00:44:43] Ridiculous guy and then you got Vaughn doing both perfect. Thanks

[00:44:47] I got it man, you know it was the nondies, but uh, I'm big fan of swingers

[00:44:51] Sorry sorry people. I know that's that too can be a bit

[00:44:56] Maybe there's a dash of massage and he maybe not massagity, but just like

[00:45:01] It's a dude thing

[00:45:03] Yes, that's the way to phrase it

[00:45:05] I think there's stuff that it's like it's dated maybe a little it's just like it had one audience

[00:45:11] And I was that guy

[00:45:18] That doesn't give me a good segue you mentioned Jesse playments

[00:45:22] Do we want to commit to

[00:45:25] Civil war now that it's on streaming?

[00:45:27] Man, I think I'm gonna cry if I watch that but I do see I don't know anything about it other than the reviews were like

[00:45:34] Very up there down like wow

[00:45:36] Like everything from like this is actually pretty good to like he's a deeply unserious person playing with serious ideas

[00:45:43] That's what's his face the director the direct Alice Garland Alex

[00:45:47] Yeah, I only know that cuz you told me that

[00:45:49] Oh, I don't also know that Jesse Plyment has if there's like a moment in there that will

[00:45:54] Shake you do to plymons

[00:45:57] I'm like I gotta see this he's in the trailer, but that's his only scene

[00:46:01] That you see a little bit of an neutrality says what kind of American are you do we want to commit to civil war now?

[00:46:07] I think I'd like to see that let's not know if I'm gonna see it by next week because my wife will have to be out of the house

[00:46:12] Okay, cuz she's like anything that's like war Jason. She's like uh-huh

[00:46:17] Civil war is they may be streaming on mags. We might have monumension it. We might have or might not mention the old man

[00:46:24] But definitely gonna come back a bad monkey. Oh, absolutely

[00:46:28] Okay, so we'll try to watch a couple of those more because they're fun

[00:46:32] Do you like laughing? Do you like laughing then you might like this I don't know and with episode three

[00:46:38] I promise Donald on some plot points that are

[00:46:42] Worth discussion a little that's it for us this week if you

[00:46:47] Enjoy what we do we're on the socials and we'll talk to you next Tuesday

[00:46:52] Maybe Adam can come back

[00:46:54] Maybe they'll lift his bed charges have to be dropped plain

[00:46:58] He earned his badge back. He's he

[00:47:01] This saddest part would when he handed his bad and badge and gun over to you. Oh, I don't know if you know this but as a guess of

[00:47:09] Taking it now I'm authorized to use lethal force

[00:47:15] That's it for us y'all come back next week. See ya